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Does this comply with Christianity?
So I was thinking. About the whole story of Jesus and his teachings and whatnot. It's obvious that whatever he was trying to teach, the people at that time had a hard time understanding. I have reason to believe that the outer shell of Christianity is the result of confusion and misunderstanding, skewed interpretations, taking metaphor and parable and making it literal. But beyond the shell of confusion, lies Truth, at the core. So with that being said, I will get to the point.
I began to ponder some of the more popular stories/parables. I figure, if the bible is riddled with parable and mystery, maybe there is a deeper meaning to some of the most important scenes.
Mainly the story of the crucifixion and resurrection. I started to think about how this could be more symbolic than literal. Jesus taught that Christ is Truth. Christ is the Son of God. So the Son of God is the Truth. Obviously, what we live in is not the Truth, because the Truth has yet to be revealed. The Son of God is hung on the cross and dies, and is put in the tomb. 3 days later, he is resurrected. What if this is how the manifestation of our imperfect selves and reality began? With the "death" of Christ, or the Truth? And what if the tomb symbolizes all of time, and the resurrection is the return of Christ, or the restoration of the Truth?
There is another famous Bible scene that correlates with this. The Last Supper.
Jesus takes the bread and says that it is the body of Christ. It is then broken and each person eats a piece of it. This could be symbolic in that the Truth, or Christ, is sacrificed, broken, obscured, however you want to look at it, so that we may live as we do, (bread is necessary for physical survival, just at the sacrifice of the Truth may be mandatory for existing imperfectly in an imperfect physical manifestation.) and each fragment exists within each of us. He then takes ONE cup, filled with wine, and calls the wine the blood of Christ. Each person partakes in drinking the blood of Truth, or Christ, from the ONE available source. This could be symbolic in that everyone sacrifices the Truth so that they may live in this reality, which is imperfect. It just seems to make sense to me. God creates perfection, and the Son of God is perfect. But if the Son of God is "divided" or if each fragment believes that it is individual, each "individual" will be imperfect. What if this reality began with the denial of Christ, the denial of the Truth? And now we live in the opposite of Truth, a lie. But when we believe the lie to be Truth, it may survive. What if our belief in ourselves as we are and this imperfect reality is what manifests it? What if the fabled return of Christ is actually the return of the Truth, the Revelation? I could elaborate to fill all of the gaps and connect everything to make more sense, but it might enrage "traditional" Christians in that I would have to say that all of us, as a whole, are the Son of God, and the Son of God is entertaining a reality in which it is many, and exists as many, the Son of Man. Doesn't it say in the Bible that Lucifer manipulated 1/3 of heaven into rebelling, in which they were cast into Hell? Well the Son of God is 1/3 of the Holy Trinity, but maybe 1/3 wasn't cast out, it cast itself out by becoming divided and losing it's prefect, united whole form. It also says that while this is present, Heaven is not at rest, as well as all of existence. 2/3 is 66.6% and 2 divided by 3 is .666
So what if all of this Chaos and imperfect-ness is due to the fact that the Son of God, God's single creation, his 1 and only begotten Son, has been divided against itself, creating unTruth and all that good stuff. Idk, I'm having a hard time really explaining it, but it makes sense to me.
Does this comply with Christianity? Does anything Christ teaches in the New Testament go against any of what I have said? Could it be considered heresy, or does it still comply with what Jesus taught?
Hey, Muldah, I said New Testament.
Good job at really providing examples to back your statements. Really, that's just wonderful. Good to see you really thought about this one with an open heart and mind and provided a good explanation as to why this does not meet within the guidelines of the New Testament. The Old Testament is Jewish, and contains nothing of what Jesus taught. Jesus was man, and realized, later in his life, that he is the Son of God. He wasn't born with this knowledge. He also taught that we could be just like him, in that we would be saved from this. He also encouraged it, and said we would go on to do greater works than he. So was Jesus a heretic? For later realizing that he is the Son of God? Or is it ok because your church tells you it is. Think for yourself. The Kingdom of God is within you. How do you expect to exist there outside of the boundaries of physical matter and time, if you can't find it? It won't be brought to you when you die. Congrats on Choir.
13 Antworten
- city-girlLv 6vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Rob, do not confuse history with fables and fiction. Jesus' crucifixion was historically recorded. The apostles actually warned of people who would come with 'fables' and you are one of them.
A lot of fiction entered into 'christianity' through ignorance, (the Catholics were forbiddent to read the Bible) but that is no excuse. Since Guttenberg was inspired by the Lord to invent one of the most planet affecting implements, (the moveable type and the printing press), there is no reason why you cannot read the Bible yourself. Those who rely upon the interpretations from pulpits and expositories without giving much care to what is written will be judged severely. This is the information age, after all. But you should read it from Revelation to Jude, then Peter, then James, Hebrews, and Paul's letters to the Acts of the Apostles, (real accounts) and then the Gospels, (which are literal, eye-witness accounts as well). Then, after all your STUDY, you can read what was written some 500 years before the first gospel was written. (Malachi).
When you read for yourself, you can filter out what has been added by the catholics and the unitarians, and get to the pure truth. You can also go to the Library and take out a copy of Josephus, the historian at the time of Jesus death and resurrection. He was an unbiased historian and so you can learn from what the Romans had recorded. (although Josephus was a Jew).
You can also get some commentaries from people like Isaac Asimov who is a well-known scientist who has deep respect for the Bible.
But you should also remember that 'scoffers' will be walking in the last days those who think they know the Bible better than God Himself. If you are humble, you can learn. If not, you will keep spinning fables in the air causing more confusion and pollution. I hope you are more sensible than that!
Quelle(n): Isaac Asimov, the bible, Josephus - Anonymvor 1 Jahrzehnt
your not to far from understanding, beware of the fact that satan is very real, and very very very sneaky
lets look back to the very beginning in the book of Gen. what did God say to Adam >
16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
do you see what God said ?...Now I am going to tell you something that is very deep ok.. so don't flip out on me (we are dead)
now wait a second ok we are dead, God told Adam in verse.17 >
"for in the day you that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die"
did Adam drop dead that day ? YES his spirit did die that same day !
....so now with that in mind what Did Jesus do when he died on the Cross ? He died IN the Flesh !
while Adam died in the spirit ! so through one man death enter the world and Now through one man (the man Christ Jesus became a quickening spirit ! or as we who are in the flesh say LIFE !
1 Corinthians 15:44-46 (King James Version)
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
All this was part of the Plan ...satan just fell for it hook line and sinker ! he played right into the trap and did exactly what God Knew he would do, it had to be done How else would God wanting to make us an Eternal child knowing the difference Between right and wrong good and evil ever have taught us these things without violating His own Holiness ?
so back to what you call the truth...Jesus is THE TRUTH THE WAY THE LIFE by the way we also get a body like His body >>>
1 Corinthians 15:53-55 (King James Version)
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
The day I asked Jesus to save me i was changed, when he returns to call us home I will changed again !
its very deep what God is doing and We must come to Him by Faith there was no other way ...we would not have understood
The manifold Wisdom of God
Quelle(n): dont be afraid to ask God for wisdom .. it starts here>> JOB 28:28 - vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Read through a modern version of the Bible. Take it literally unless it is obviously not. For instance Jesus' parables were exactly that....just parables to teach a point. And when the Bible says that Jesus died for our sins, it means exactly that. He really died and was really resurrected. That's what he came for. When the Gospel of John indicates that Jesus is God and co-Creator it is given as fact. Quit trying to find mystery in the obvious. Now if you want to play with stuff like symbology, play with Revelation.
Too many people aren't comfortable with what the Bible says, so they want to "interpret" it in ways that make it more palatable to them. But God knew that would happen and warned against it saying that men would exchange the truth of God for a lie.
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- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
This is really quite an interesting idea! Thanks for sharing. :)
As for whether it "complies with Christianity", you'll have to give yourself a good definition of what Christianity is first. If you went and asked 100 people, you'd likely get 100 different answers.
Some people will tell you that what you're saying is absolutely heretical and unchristian because it doesn't support the physical resurrection of Christ. Others will see it as a great idea.
If it makes sense to you, and you believe it is right, then believe it! Don't let others bother you. Delve deeper into what YOU believe is the Truth.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
No, it does not. If you are here to Troll, then have a cookie.
If you are seriously trying to figure this out, look to the Christian Church traditions and teaching during the first 1000 years of its existance. Modern day Christianity is manmade and bears little resemblance to it's origin. I promise you will be suprised by what you discover. I just got done researching it myself.
- shirleykinsLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Sounds like new age philosophical "Christianity" to me. Christianity in its literal application succeeds at physical practicality and intellectual coherence as well as spiritual benefit. Obedience is the fork in the road where many people turn away from life.
- MoiLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Does this comply with Christianity?
No way
Does anything Christ teaches in the New Testament go against any of what I have said?
All of it does
Could it be considered heresy, or does it still comply with what Jesus taught?
It is beyond heretical. It makes God out to be a liar.
Num 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
- ?Lv 5vor 1 Jahrzehnt
God told me to tell you he didnt know what eternity was until he read your questions.
- Anonymvor 1 Jahrzehnt
You lost me at whatnot and whatever
If you want me to read your question, be succinct