On asking forgiveness.?

You are absolutely correct. If we hurt someone, we must ask them to forgive us first, then to God. If I do all foolish acts and keep on asking God for forgiveness, he will rightly kick me off. Jesus has very specifically taught, if we have sinned against anyone, we should win their minds back first, before we go to the temple of God to offer prayers. If we don't do, surely, our sins will not be forgiven. The one who fought with you desreves to be sympathized. She is not a Christian at all. Sorry for such people.

AH as a christian I am positive you are wrong .. sorry she doesn't need to apologize to you she could or she may need to for her own reasons but to get forgiven for it ,,NO ... and Christians will never ever need someone who isn't a christian to tell them how to become one or stay one or what a good one would look like ....I find this the ultimate retard-est wackiest thing I've ever heard ...I hear it all the time .. In my opinion it is the dumbest thing someone can do ..WHY?????because one reason they aren't a christian is because their doctrine is way outta line .. unbelievers believe what is usually on the verge of what I would consider a cult ...Things so odd and convoluted that I wonder where some of their thoughts come from.... Most Christians are following or trying to follow some age old structurally sound principles of faith .. and therefore they aren't creatively inventing theories on the fly as some people will try when pressed as to what they believe in ... a Christian is commanded by christ to have a sound reason for his faith and be ready to give an answer to all who would ask...

You're absolutely right, and she's absolutely wrong, in more ways than one.

First, God will NOT forgive us if we INTENTIONALLY sin, "knowing" that we can just ask for forgiveness afterwards. The mark of a Christian is that we don't want to have to ask for forgiveness in the first place. Now, if we have a habit (like smoking, or drinking), it's a little different. But you know, I don't want to sound judgmental, but before I became a Christian, I used to swear like a sailor. Seriously, you could ask my friends. My favorite was my creative uses for the f-word. The night I became a Christian...I quit. That was almost two years ago, and I've only slipped twice since. That's what God does. I have no desire to swear anymore.

Secondly, when we sin against God, we ask for His forgiveness. When we sin against others, we should ask God AND those we sin against for forgiveness.

So like I said, you're right. She's wrong. I pray that God shows her that.

Actually, as a Christian myself, you raise a very good point. The answer is yes. The Bible tells us that, "If you do not forgive others of their sins against you, the Heavenly Father will not forgive your sins." and "if you go to the altar to pray, but have a quarrel with your brother, first resolve your quarrel." Nice use of logic.

On another note, please, don't be put off by one bad experience with a Christian. Not all of us are completely blind, illogical believers who will lash out in verbal debate. Many of us understand that there are belief systems other than ours and that we can't be judgemental, because "judgement is the Lord's."

You're probably getting tired of my writing, but I'd also like to thank you for being polite on the post. Many people of different faiths or those who don't have a faith are condescending and critical. It makes a refreshing change seeing someone on Answers who can respect other's beliefs.

not only to ask forgiveness to the one she did wrong or hurt but likewise to forgive him/her if ever he/she did make mistakes to hurt her!

Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Which means be ye angry but sin not; that even we are very angry we must not hurt the Holy Spirit within by keeping anger in our hearts!

Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Eph 4:19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

Eph 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

Eph 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another.

Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Eph 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.

Eph 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

That's why Lord Jesus Christ said; Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

That True Follower of Christ (CHRISTian) must be Born Again in the Spirit of God in order to be truly convicted by the Holy Spirit everytime he/she has sin against the Holy Will of God and thus he/she can claimed 1John 1:9.

I agree that one must need to asks forgiveness on the other party to have a true peace in your mind and in your hearts else, it will bothers you a lot and become a burdened in your hearts and that's the time you grieved the Holy Spirit, doing the things which supposedly you do not do as the Holy Spirit convinced you with your anger and sins!

So did you ask her forgiveness? You did say both of you threw words at each other right? Who started the attack? Or who attacked first? Read the book of Psalms and read of the things King David did to defend Himself, sometimes people like you have the wrong Idea of what a christian is supposed to be, we are not your doormat, for you to wipe your feet on any ole time you feel like it, why do we always get this question when insulted and defended, that's why you are not a christian because of your wrong concept of what a christian is supposed to be, I was a christian when I joined the marine corps and was taught to kill for six years and when asked if I would kill to defend my country I said yes, I would, do you know how many born again Christians have fought for your freedom?, I for one have fought a whole gang of thugs who jumped me one day, about six of them and I fought every one of them, I was not just going to stand around and let them beat on me, I highly believe in the acts of King David, He was a mighty man of valor, who slew a giant that everyone was afraid to fight, and all of his men had their own story, it's very interesting, you should look into it, we are not cowards, we can get into it with the best of them, so I suggest you not look at Christians as weaklings who just let any ole push them around, I suppose you think Jesus was weak too right? Now, take no offense, just answering your question, and now, goodnight.

Well, I agree with what you say and disagree as well. Yes, she should ask your forgiveness but if she doesn't- that doesn't mean Christ won't forgive her.

On the other hand, it was wrong of her to curse at you and say rude things to you in the first place. God will not forgive her if she is not repenting from it. And from what you are saying- she isn't. She is basing what she is saying on the idea of marshmallow forgiveness. But God wants us to repent- to ask for forgiveness and TURN from the things we are doing. Not to ask for forgiveness and then do it again.

Although it is best for the person doing the wrong to ask forgiveness of the person being wronged, ultimately it's up to you to forgive that person. God will forgive the wrong doer if they ask even if they don't ask for your forgiveness. Forgiveness just helps the person doing the forgiving.

I WARNED MY ENEMISE (FROM MY GRUDGE LIST0 LONG AGO, THERE WAS ONLY ONE NEGATIVE FOR WHICH I WOULD ACCEPT AN APOLOGY. Todya i accepted an apology for this negative. They were astounded to fing out acceptance of their apology for this fact was in a completely different dimension, from where they percieved it to be, and my acceptance of their apology, only affected the dimension in which it existed. Their plan to attack, me never worked, because i was in another dimension, when they had accepted my apology for the same, fact! The negative for which i am referring, is the reflecting of light!

Acceptance of apology for this, created an absence of liability for this act. I have never accepted, nor offered an apology for making sound. feeling is always a source of complaint, but it an apology is never offered, nor accepted. Smell is the same, case, no apology/no acceptance, and taste , well there is just no accounting for taste, so no apology/ no acceptance. Hope theis helps.

This is one of the key sociopathies, not having to seek forgiveness from the ones you harm, because you get it from your imaginary friend no matter what heinousness you commit.