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Where in the Bible does Jesus say to be oppressive?
Most Christians will agree that the Old Testament is a history which leads to the Messiah, which is why Christians can eat shellfish and wear cotton/poly shirts and disobey other laws of Leviticus... Jesus came to make a new covenant between man and God. He spread is message of Love, which is now world-wide.
So why, whenever there is a question about homosexuality, do many Christian answerers post OT verses to condemn and oppress? Jesus never even spoke of the issue.
In our past, the Bible was used similarly to keep women from having equal rights, and to keep slavery as an American institution . I bet we all agree that letting blacks and women become productive members of society has benefitted society as a whole.
Why must we go through the same motions to keep homosexuals down? Why the hatred from those who claim to follow a message of love? I wonder who will be the target in the next century once homosexual respect and equal rights are commonplace and taken for granted
9 Antworten
- whitneyskywalkerLv 4vor 1 JahrzehntBeste Antwort
Todd, I couldn't agree with you more. Even if that verse in Corinthians were grounds to condemn homosexuals (which I don't think it is), do these people honestly think Jesus would scorn someone because of their sexual pratices, or deny them his love? I just can't stand it when people pick and choose which verses in the bible to follow. Who are we to judge what is right and wrong? And since when is loving another person wrong?
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
The purpose of the Law was two-fold:
-- to provide a window into the kinds of people God would have us be
-- to form (a safe) community
There may be a number of reasons that God might tell us to do or not do something.
-- because it isn't in keeping with how God made people (moral)
-- because it is unsafe (not a moral issue)
Because (at least in keeping with the argument) God knows best, and we want to live humbly with Him (Micah 6.8), if God says don't eat shellfish, then we don't. The eating is not a moral issue except in the sense that God said don't eat it.
However, when we have discussions about the Law and its capacity as a salvific tool, and its being superceeded by something else, the thrust of the argument is that Man needed something else to make him pure. Keeping a Law that one had already broken does not negate the breaking of it in the first instance. Therefore, the Law could never save anyone and wasn't intended to do so.
God's desire is not that we keep a Law, but that we allow Him to transform ourselves into (back into) His likeness. The Law, according to Paul, was intended to lead us toward that likeness, but Jesus was the perfect example of that likeness.
Whether there is a moral imperative to allow any group of people to have equal anything is debateable, even on a societal achievement basis. History is repleate with societies that achieved the epitome of their eras while at the same time maintaining cast and class systems.
While it may be beneficial to some societies to allow groups to become "productive members of society," it is not a given that a culture is necessarily "better" - in a moral sense - by having done so.
Having a difference of opinion on whether Jewish members of the Roman empire should be able to vote, or whether only Roman citizens should "count" in those discussions does not equate to hate of non-citizens. Similarly having a different view on which groups (however we care to define them) should enjoy which priveleges in any society does not equate to hate.
And so your argument begins with a basis that is not valid and uses assumptions that are not or may not be correct. As a result, the support for your main question, as well as your assumptions about moral judgement are suspect at best.
- ?Lv 5vor 1 Jahrzehnt
In Acts10:38 states;"how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
In Romans1:27-32.
These scriptures do not mention we are to judge others with alternative life styles. If by any chance these scriptures convict you by you reading them. Then that is your business and between you and God.
I will always love and respect people whether black or white or any culture or any faith. To include your choice of mates.
I might not like it, but then i don't like spinach either. Which my thoughts become my problem and business. I would hope you would love and respect me still.
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- CuchulainLv 6vor 1 Jahrzehnt
You are correct that the Old Testament would not be the place to justify these things. Are you unaware that it is in the New Testament though?
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God
- loveChristLv 6vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Jesus forgave the woman caught in the act of adultery and told her to go and sin no more..fornication is a sin period,whoever is doing it..Jesus was and is not an oppressor of people and no respector of persons
- Anonymvor 1 Jahrzehnt
In the CCC, it says that we should neither condone nor condemn homosexuality. It is not our place to judge.
- Anonymvor 1 Jahrzehnt
Im not christian but I will take the gnostic opinion of this as my own.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
That is called "fornication" according to the Greek language. Do some research on this very topic and see what it really covers in the Greek.