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Fish tank problem...I have tons of chemicals, please tell me which to use & what to do...?
I have an 18 gallon fresh water tank with hatchet fish and 4 mollies. (I had some scavenger and angel fish and tiger barbs and some neons, but they have since died.) I am using drinking water from "Water Express" a company that was recommended b/c of their filtration system.
My tank is currently cloudy and the fish are staying in the top of the tank. I started out with tap water, then I did a 50% change of water to drinking water, let a week go by, did another 50% change yesterday and I still have the same problem.
What I have tried based on professional recommendations are:
put 2tsp of baking soda
5 water softener tabs into the filter
2 pennies in the tank
have used the following the chemicals and still own:
Easy Balance
Aqua Safe
Prime
Cycle
Using 'my ammonia & pH' test strips and 'jungle correct' pH tank tabs
The results are always the same.
ammonia is ok
total alkalinity is 300 high
pH is 8.4 alkaline
Where do I go from here?? Thanks!
7 Antworten
- vor 1 JahrzehntBeste Antwort
Oh my goodness... enough with all the chemicals and experiments. If your tank has white cloudiness... THAT IS GOOD AND LET IT GO ... THAT IS THE GOOD BACTERIA GROWNING!!!! Cut back on feeding for a little while... once or twice ever other day.
The only chemicals I use are the dechlorinator and aquarium salt. Keeping salt in the water helps with the fish ability to heal and helps them through the process of establishing the tank.
The white cloudiness will clear up... but let it alone for a day or two... AGAIN... THE CLOUDINESS IS THE GOOD BACTERIA BUILDING UP.....
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
The baking soda raises the pH and the water softener brings it down. Not sure why you were advised to add both. What was the rationale behind the pennies? I can't think of any reason you would need to add pennies to your tank.
My advise is to remove the pennies, and stop with the baking soda and water softener. The Easy Balance, Aqua Safe, Prime and Cycle are all fine to keep using but in all honesty I would have thought just the Prime and Cycle should be sufficient. Once you've used up these chemicals I would only keep Prime and Seachem Stability (a great filter bacteria product) on hand.
Your pH is really high. I wouldn't add any more fish until you've sorted our your water issues.
Tanks can go cloudy when they are first set up and going through the initial cycle. You should add more Cycle at each water change. And doing partial water changes (say 20-30%) 2 or 3 times a week for the first couple of weeks will help sensitive fish.
Angels and neons really don't go that well in a brand new tank. Neons take fright easily and usually a couple will die just from the stress of travel from the shop to your home. The others die off from the ammonia or nitrite spike if your tank is new. Angels shouldn't be added to a tank until the tank is very well establish. I wouldn't add angels until you've had the tank running for about a month or even 6 weeks. I'm surprised the hatchet fish outlasted the tiger barbs.
Have you tested the pH of your tap water. I would test general and carbonate hardness as well. If you don't have test kits just take a sample of your water to your local aquarium shop and ask that they test it for you. If your tap water is fine, there could be something in your tank which is adding to the hardness and/or increasing the pH. The gravel could be doing it. Other rocks or decorations that you've added can also add to the pH.
Ideally you should aim to keep the kind of fish that do well in your water. Your life as an aquarist will be really unsatisfactory if you have to make a lot of adjustments to your tap water. And in my experience the most common methods for adjusting unsuitable water make your tank really unstable.
Once you've determined what your tap water is like. Do some research on the type of fish that are suitable. If it's hard and alkaline then have a look at Rift Lake cichlids. I'm sure you should be able to find some species of fish that love your tap water that you also find beautiful and will get enjoyment out of.
If you really want to keep fish that need water requirements that are different to your tap water then another alternative is to get a reverse osmosis unit to filter everything out of the water. Then add the salts, minerals and buffers back to the water to the level required by your fish. But again this can be hard work and expensive. It's up to you what level you want to take your hobby.
Talk to the aquarium shop that is closest to where you live and find out what they do to their water. If your water is coming from the same source then you shouldn't have to do a great deal that is different to what they do. They may do different things for the different species of fish. By talking to them you can ascertain your different options.
I suspect that in fact your tap water is fine and you simply added more fish than a new tank could cope with. If you allow the tank to settle before you add any more fish I'm sure everything will work out ok.
Good luck!
- Kribensis loverLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
i doubt it that your ammonia is at 0
First of all stop using all those chemicals, ALL of them
the only thing you should keep is Aqua safe
all the other stuff is for NOTHING
stop using baking soda
stop using water softener
take out the pennies as well
throw out the strips and get yourself liquid test kits for
ammonia, nitrite, nitrAte and pH
the best thing is a kit like this one here, a freshwater master testkit
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productI...
your tank is still going through the cycling process, and you have been stalling it with all those chemicals as well as those big water changes
but for now you NEED to do a big waterchange of 50%, refill with conditioned tapwater, which means use aqua safe
wait 2 days, and then test the water with the new testkit, which you hopefully will get
the cloudiness will also go away once the cycle is completed
read up here on cycling a tank
http://www.firsttankguide.net/cycle.php
- jerry bLv 6vor 1 Jahrzehnt
When you say ammonia is ok, what is the actual level?
I strongly suspect that your tank is cycling, and the fish are suffering from ammonia or nitrite poisoning (probably nitrite).
None of those chemicals are going to help. In fact, stop with the chemicals.
Start changing 50% of the water every day until it clears up. You may lose some more fish in the process, unfortunately.
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- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
OK u dont have to panic :)
And u guys dont teach to do water change the tank is going thru cycling so what u have to do is stop using all chemicals and stop changing watter ..
Watter is forming good bacterria wich u dont have it or right when it starts to form u removing by changing watter .
1st step BY ZLINE Bacteria .
2nd AmoLock 2 wich will lock the amonia temporary untill cyceling will finish than your filter will clean the amonia .
3rd raise your filtration by adding more air inside you also raise your aeration .
4. Keep your temp constant betw 76-80 F and dont feed your fish to much twice a day as much as they can eat in 1 min just drop some pelets inside .
5. Dont change any filter leave the same filter inside after the watter gets clean in couple weeks than you will change 20-25% of watter and with your dirty water you will wash the same filter and used for first 2-3 months . than every 4 weeks you can change filter and activated carbon, depend what kind of filter u have ..
Good luck and dont listen ppl saying change watter or add this add that u can by the testers but after using AMOLOCK your amonia will be there it will show but its locked and is harmles for your fish . Zlin bacteria u can find it on liquid or powder add every day 5Mlg or half of the top of the botle.
Quelle(n): Own 50 G fresh watter 26 g 18 g - vor 5 Jahren
the dimensions of the tank makes a distinction, and that i'm assuming that's a small tank. constantly pass away the mild off at night. save the tank far off from solar mild. there's no way of having around cleansing it a minimum of as quickly as a month or extra, because of the fact there'll constantly be some algae improve on tank, gravel and flora.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
drinking water is perfect for them, best not to use chemicals, it can kill ur fish.