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Is it possible other religions borrowed from the Hebrew people?
The Hebrew people were in Egypt. Egypt was a polytheistic nation. The Hebrew people left, Egypt became monotheistic. The Hebrew people were in Babylon. Babylon was a polytheistic nation. The Hebrew people returned to Israel. The Babylon area became monotheistic. Hebrew people were in Roman occupation. Rome was a polytheistic nation. Due to the influence of the Hebrew people, Rome became a monotheistic nation.
Is it possible that these religions borrowed from the Hebrews and not the Hebrews borrowed from them.
(Hebrew consists of the Jews, but instead of saying the Jews left Egypt, which would be incorrect, I used the Hebrew name for all, which is correct, for they were always Hebrew.)
William D - yes I do think Satan will use whatever tactic he can. I have seen a lot of responses today Christians borrowed this or that ie Mithras this or Horus that, that I thought I would toss some logic out there. But, you are correct, Satan will use whatever tactic he can
Heathen Daughter - Since you called me on the carpet, I have studied the old religions. I believe you can not argue against something if you don't know truly what it is that you are arguing against. I feel to truly argue against something you should become almost an expert on something. So, the Sumerians were a polythiestic culture during the time of Abraham. (He was called out of Ur). The Babylonians, similar to the Romans-Greeks, incorporated most of the dieties of Sumerian religion for themselves
Sumerian name Babylonian Name
An Anu
Ki/Ninhursag Aruru, Mammi
Enlil Ellil
Enki Ea
Nanna Sin
Inanna Ishtar
Utu Shamash
Ninlil Mullitu, Mylitta
All these multiple gods, makes Sumeria a polythiestic culture. Thank you, unlike some people, I do like to be questioned and challenged.
Heathen Daughter - I have seen some of your answers in other questions, and I find you to be a very intelligent insightful young woman. I think that you are misunderstanding my question, perhaps I asked it in a confusing way, so I will try to explain it. I'm not saying that the Hebrew culture is the oldest culture, Abraham was called out of the Sumerian culture, I know the Sumerians are older. My question stems from other answers I had seen over the weekend, stating that Christians and Jews stole from other religions (Egyptian; Horus death and resurrection, the Sun God. Mid Eastern; Mithras, born on Dec 25th, born a virgin) responses like that. My question was centered around this concept: Since these cultures were all polytheistic, and came into contact with the Hebrew people and then later, sometimes much later, became monotheistic, is it possible that these other cultures borrowed from the Hebrew and possibly modified their beliefs instead of the Hebrew borrowing from them?
So this doesn't turn into a dialogue between me and you or anyone for that matter, please feel free to e-mail me. I am enjoying your responses and I would love to share more in depth with you or anyone else. I am very familiar with the religions of the Mediteranean Sea. (Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Islam, Babylonian, not to mention Judaism and Christianity)
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- vor 1 JahrzehntBeste Antwort
My brother has a doctorate degree in Egyptology. He has done extensive research on the culture and the religion of Egypt, and he has even confirmed what you say. Egypt was mostly a monotheistic nation by the time of Cleopatra and Roman rule. Most of their writings signaled that. He has written many books and has refuted the arguments of Horus and Isis for the last 15 years. There is no writing prior to 1980 that has Horus being dead for three days. Most documents have him being dead three to six months, it's their seasons story. Isis grieved for that time, thus autumn and winter. I am going to send him this question and maybe he can give a better answer than I can.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Cite your sources because you have that all totally backwards lol
In becoming "monotheistic" they became Christian or Islamic. So they didn't borrow from, they borrowed completly.
Study your mythology and then get back to me because the Sumerians were around a good 2000 years before the Hebrews were so exactly did they borrow??
The Sumerian culture existed around 5000 BCE. There isn't even a blip on the radar fromt he Hebrews until about 3000 BCE.
I'm still not seeing how you can come up with the arguement that it borrowed from the Hebrews?
Also the Book of the Dead is found in the 16th Dynasty, about 1600 BCE. The Old Testament wasn't written until about 1300 BCE. 300 years later. And while yes it's easily argued and highly probable that those stories where passed down orally, realistically so where the concepts in the Book of the Dead.
Tablets of Gilgamesh were from about 4000 BCE, 1000 years before the Hebrew society was even around. How did they borrow from the Jews?
Once again you have civilazations that have proof of existance FAR before the Hebrew civilization even existed. So I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing the validity of your arguement here.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
I think it is very possible that these cultures borrowed the monotheistic beliefs from the Jews.
When Moses was told to take the people out of bondage, the plagues that were sent, were to show Gods domain over the Egyptian gods.
While in Babylonian captivity, a decree was issued that only the God of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were to be worshiped.
In Roman culture, the Christian Jews, (who were the first Christians) were being slaughtered for the beliefs, yet kept on believing. This had an impact on the Roman culture as to why these people would rather die than abandon their beliefs.
In Greek culture (you didn't mention it) Socrates was put to death for corrupting the youth. What was one of the many accusations against Socrates? He was promoting a one god mentality as opposed to a many gods mentality. Though, he wasn't promoting a supreme being, more of a "new age" philosophy that we are our own god.
These changes didn't happen over night but over time. The influence of the Jews were there and after a while, took hold.
- ?Lv 4vor 5 Jahren
Cite your supplies considering you have that one and all completely backwards lol In becoming "monotheistic" they became Christian or Islamic. so they did no longer borrow from, they borrowed completly. be taught your mythology and then come again to me because of the fact the Sumerians have been around a solid 2000 years before the Hebrews have been so precisely did they borrow?? The Sumerian subculture existed around 5000 BCE. there is not any longer even a blip on the radar fromt he Hebrews until approximately 3000 BCE. i'm nevertheless no longer seeing strategies to return up with the arguement that it borrowed from the Hebrews? additionally the e book of the lifeless is chanced on interior the sixteenth Dynasty, approximately 1600 BCE. The previous testomony wasn't written until approximately 1300 BCE. 3 hundred years later. And on an analogous time as confident this is quite argued and tremendously in all danger that those memories the place surpassed down orally, realistically so the place the suggestions interior the e book of the lifeless. pills of Gilgamesh have been from approximately 4000 BCE, one thousand years before the Hebrew society replaced into even around. How did they borrow from the Jews? as quickly as back you have civilazations that have evidence of existance far before the Hebrew civilization even existed. So i'm sorry, i'm only no longer seeing the validity of your arguement here.
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- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
This is very interesting and would actually be correct if the Jews were sharing their beliefs with these people. The Jews were long gone from these societies when they became monotheistic and none of them became Jewish nations. When you read the O.T. you find where God says to the Israelis not to consort with none Israelis and again in the NT with Jesus. Paul was a Roman citizen and he spread his brand of Christianity and I say that it was his brand because before Paul there was no such person called a Christian. And it was some 300 yrs before Rome under Constantine became Christian Nation. I believe the Hebrews took a lot of bad from people as evidenced by the Bible and these people remained as they were for centuries.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Truth. That, and how deceived one has to be to feel that the Bible got it's stories from other cultures (like the flood), when they are all reporting the same occurrence of a worldwide event. The Bible was written later as the Hebrews developed writing later - not because they borrowed the report.
- Digital AgeLv 6vor 1 Jahrzehnt
When cultures come in contact with each other, they influence each other. It is quite possible that Hebrew monotheism influenced the Egyptians to make one god dominant....(in their case, Amen-Ra.)
- William DLv 5vor 1 Jahrzehnt
Look... there is only one God, the God of the Bible. Don't you think that Satan has the capability of producing false religions that will mimic Christian beliefs just to try to discredit the true religion. After all, he wants to take as many of God's children away from God as he can. That's what his motivation is... get even with God. I would not worry about what people say that Egyptian religions claimed. That really is irrelevant. The only relevant question is, "Who is Jesus?"
- PivoineLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
A very interesting point here. I believe it is possible. I can't really decide though, I am interested to see all the answers. :))
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
That's exactly where Christianity and Islam came from, though neither likes to admit it.