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Homosexual non-theists...?
A very serious question: Is there any particular image of God which you could identify as the principal one which you reject/dismiss as unworthy of belief?
I'd be grateful for as many answers as possible! Thanks for your time and trouble!
Garfield, I mean everything exactly as I have written it, but thank you, for your response.
7 Antworten
- sirade1Lv 4vor 1 JahrzehntBeste Antwort
Personally it isn't a problem with God. My main problem is with religions that pretend to work on God's behalf.
- Anonymvor 1 Jahrzehnt
Well hon whether I'm TG or not I'm still an atheist so in my eye's the word God is a figment of other peoples imagination.
It would appear that Garfield has such a difficult time communicating here that he has resorted to e- mailing all of us directly. Must be a bad communicator.
- NHBaritoneLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
I don't believe in any God purported to intervene in nature or has supposedly communicated with human beings in any fashion.
If God intervenes in nature, then no scientific inquiry would bring about reliable results. But because scientific inquiry does produce reliable results (as evidenced by every appliance in your kitchen), then a God who intervenes in nature is untenable.
If God communicated with human beings, it would by necessity cross cultural boundaries and assert statements that were universal. However, all universally applicable statements are more parsimoniously interpreted as reason-based, not divinely given. To assert that it is necessary for humans to be told by God that it is a bad idea to murder, steal or lie is nonsensical, since we, like most social animals, have figured that out on our own.
And the notion that human beings can outlive our human bodies is just as nonsensical as believing an oak tree can outlive being turned into a dining room set. Human beings tend to hold a lot of anxiety about death, and just as it is normal (whether it is true or not) to tell frightened children that, "everything is going to be alright," we have reassured ourselves with a fantasy about eternal life.
(It is an interesting phenomenon that many who believe in eternal life are hugely frightened by death, while many who consider death the end of their conscious existence can accept it willingly. Perhaps this is because the coming of the end, when it has been played through in the imagination, no longer terrorizes.)
The only God that has the slightest possibility of existing is the Deists' notion of first cause, but even that is beginning to fade further and further back into the God-of-the-gaps framework.
- KujiLv 7vor 1 Jahrzehnt
I'm an agnostic but I lean toward the side of theism. I'm also bisexual not gay, if that matters to you. One of the few things I am sure of is that I can't believe in a God who would doom people to hell over something we have as little control over as our beliefs yet remains good by His own definition. I can much more readily remain celibate for life, give up all my possessions and devote my life to good works and prayer to a God I don't believe in than to force myself to believe in something which I do not. If I want to believe and cannot, wouldn't that be at least partly God's fault for delivering me into circumstances that were not conducive to belief and not touching my heart the way many others claim to have been touched and possibly even hardening my heart like he did to the pharaoh of the Bible? I am not saying that it is God's fault. I am merely saying that I can't believe in a God who will punish me eternally for my lack of faith.
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- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
To me, omni-benevolence is the God that certainly doesn't exist.
If god or allah or whatever existed, most say he intends all things to happen as they do, and he makes no mistakes. By that assumption, god intends man to sin, as god intends everything. But if you sin, god punishes you. God is punishing you for a sin he intended you to commit. Thats not very benevolent.
- vor 1 Jahrzehnt
yes i think it is non theists becoz cannot be relied upon as proof of God's creation. the only thing which matters is ur belief inurself and ur own feelings.