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occluderx fragte in Arts & HumanitiesPhilosophy · vor 1 Jahrzehnt

Can you prove this wrong/false?

Go read this Authors Opinon, (link below) read it, and tell me if you can prove it wrong.

http://physicsmathforums.com/showpost.php?p=5989&p...

Honesty counts so only "yes" or "no" are acceptable answers, as the 'author' speaks for themselves in the opening title.

Update:

The originating premise of the work accepts the existence of an "infinity", so that part is not subject to the debate.

That said, acceptance of the idea of infinity as 'existent', is un-provable! one way or the other! so that part is rendered moot, and further rendered as little more then expression of your personal belief.

Now can you prove it wrong in its' assertion of "Not a thought"

5 Antworten

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  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt
    Beste Antwort

    IF as the author has assumed, thoughts "pass through your head" or "arise in your head", AND IF you require, for the sake of this discussion, that infinity is proved on the basis that it cannot be disproved, then perhaps the author's argument is valid.

    On the other hand, there are many concepts that cannot be disproved and we do not accept them as proved on that basis.

    One such example is that thought is consciousness, external to the physical reality of any head, and as one's consciousness identifies with the physical reality ideas must be dumbed down to force fit them into a communication protocol whether that is neurons firing, or chemical reactions in the brain and body, or even further dumbed down into a conversant language we may share across the physical medium.

    If we accept the opinions that cannot be disproved as therefore proven, then the above paragraph is proved and allows for the thought of infinity although infinity itself cannot be dumbed down into a "delineated space." The "delineated space" of the head in your author's opinion cannot contain "un-delineated space" but consciousness, being infinite, can.

  • Anpadh
    Lv 6
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    It is all a play with words. If you can define something, you have to be able to think it. To say that infinsity is a thought that you can't think is just plain silly. If it couldn't be thought, we wouldn't be arguing about it. So, the guy, whoever it is, is obviously wrong and he knows it.

    Now, you COULD argue that infinity is something that you don't KNOW the beginning and ending of. But then do you REALLY know the exact beginning and ending of ANYTHING? So, is everything automatically infinity? If everything IS infinty, then obviously, we can think it because there are millions of things we DO think about. If nobody has ever thought of infinity, then we aren't arguing about infinity right now and it is therefore a non-issue.

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Infinity itself is an unrealized theory. Defined as something without limits or no end. However, no one has ever been to the end of the Universe or time so how can we be sure it isn't there?

    Infinity is realized and theorized as the continuation beyond all endings. Yet we have no knowledge of whether infinity is a concept or a reality beyond our own knowledge or imaginations.

    So no, I cannot prove wrong/false.

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    You've got to be more specific. There's a lot on that link and it's difficult to know what you're interested in proving wrong. There also seems to be a lot of past discussion behind the link. Without following the whole thread, this single page is to vague to debate.

    It seems to be a discussion of the meaning of "infinite". That's the best I can figure. But who's definition do you want to disprove? Or, perhaps you don't think infinite can be defined.

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  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    yes

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