What do you think about this article about the Trinity ?

What is interesting, many opposers failed to answer your question, shifting their discussion to questions of their own.  A tactic these very ones have accused Jehovah's Witnesses of doing.

This reminds me of the scribes and pharisees who were wanting to stone Jesus for calling God, his Father.

Yet in John chapter 8 these very opposers, did the exact same thing.

'We have one Father, God'

If these individuals were to honestly look into the matter, they would have to agree on this point, Jehovah's Witnesses are correct.

Just as many former trinitarians have done.

It is not that the 'word' trinity, doesn't appear in scripture, as one pointed out. 

Even trinitarian scholars have pointed out that God's word doesn't even teach the idea that there are 3 persons of 1 God.

Whereas 'Watchtower' is mentioned in scripture.

True, magazine and bible aren't specifically mentioned in scripture, but the similar term 'scrolls' are. Especially since the word magazine didn't exist till 1575 CE.

As to why CE and AD?  Because in many of the countries and languages we preach to, the history of Christianity in their country has been a record of greed, racism, extermination and hypocrisy.

Using the secular terms, helps to remove the stigma of false worship, opening the way for an unbiased listening ear.

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What do you think about these articles Rolando?

Vacinations:

"Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows’ seeds of syphilis, cancers, eczema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccinations is a crime, an outrage, and a delusion" (Golden Age, Jan. 5, 1929, p502) 

Organ Transplants: 

 "When men of science conclude that this normal process will no longer work and they suggest removing the organ and replacing it directly with an organ from another human, this is simply a shortcut. Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic. However, in allowing man to eat animal flesh Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others." (Watchtower, Questions from Readers, Nov. 15, 1967 p 702-704) 

Christmas: 

"Even though Christmas is not the real anniversary of our Lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (Luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our Lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date. We may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "Christmas day."" (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1904, p364) 

Racism: 

Question: Is there anything in the Bible that reveals the origin of the *****? 

Answer: “It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, “Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren,” He pictured the future of the coloured race. They have been and are a race of servants…..There is no servant in the world as good as a good coloured servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world” (Golden Age July 24th 1929 page 702) 

Jehovah's Witness bait question. 

I don't see any article.

I see

- one sentence (not an article, a single sentence) taken from one article

- an edited, partial sentence taken from what might or might not be an article

- an edited, single sentence taken from a book, not taken from an article

So: was there an article that you wanted us to read and then give our opinion?

Where is it?

Because we can't answer your question until you present it to us.

Why do people not understand such a simple concept and the way BAD Christian sects and cults are so against it?!

God the father - THE ONLY GOD!!!!!!!

The SON OF GOD - JESUS and NOT god.

The Holy Ghost - the SPIRIT of GOD - therefore it is of God not a different God!

Ah the delusion that is JWism.... Still peddling deceit!

They publish their literature a few months in advance online, and I came across their Awake! magazine for August 2013, which includes a two-page article on, guess what, “Should you believe in the Trinity?”. It is not really two pages at all, but even less. Let me quote the entire thing here with some comments on why I think this is the article with the highest error/words ratio I have ever read. I have attached the original two pages to this post.

Should You Believe in the Trinity?

More than two billion people profess to be Christian. Most belong to churches that teach the Trinity—the doctrine that the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit together form one God.

How did the Trinity become an official doctrine? More important, is this teaching in harmony with the Bible?

In the first two sentences, I see the intention to argue that there are “Christians” who don’t believe in the Trinity. They obviously have to say that, while at the same time casting doubt on the other religions. The wording “the Father, the Son and the holy spirit together form one God” is ambiguous to me. One could argue that the question posed in this paragraph is a nonsensical one: The Trinity was always official doctrine.

THE Bible was completed in the first century C.E.

The Bible was definitely not complete in the first century. The writings were, but there was no Bible for multiple hundred years to come. Note the “C.E.”, instead of AD.

Teachings that led to the development of the Trinity began to be officially formulated in 325 C.E.—more than two centuries later—at a council in the city of Nicaea in Asia Minor, now Iznik, Turkey.

While the sentence itself is correct, its wording has the real potential to mislead people into thinking the Trinity was not contemplated until then. No mention of the abounding evidence found in the Fathers here.

According to the New Catholic Encyclopedia, the creed attributed to the Council of Nicaea set out the first official definition of ‘Christian orthodoxy,’ including the definition of God and Christ. Why, though, was it deemed necessary to define God and Christ centuries after the Bible was completed? Is the Bible unclear on these important topics?

It would be correct and honest to note the Arian controversy, the only reason for the definition, here, but there is only silence. It is not because Scripture was unclear, unless of course you look for the word Trinity in it.

IS JESUS GOD?

When Constantine became sole ruler of the Roman Empire, professed Christians

were divided over the relationship between God and Christ. Was Jesus God? Or was he created by God?

Still no mention of Arius and the novelty of this “created” idea.

To settle the matter, Constantine summoned church leaders to Nicaea, not because he sought religious truth, but because he did not want religion to divide his empire.

Very dishonest. Christianity wasn’t even the state religion then, so Constantine’s empire would have been “divided” anyway among the religions. Even if one grants that point, why can Constantine not have both? Find “religious truth” and thereby stabilise the empire?

Constantine asked the bishops, who may have numbered into the hundreds, to come to a unanimous accord, but his request was in vain. He then proposed that the council adopt the ambiguous notion that Jesus was “of one substance” (homoousios) with the Father.

This ignores the fact that Constantine opened the council, exhorted the Bishops to settle the matter and then withdrew. Consequently, he could not have proposed the term homoousios. Moreover, he wouldn’t have proposed that, since – as the article conveniently withholds – he was himself Arian in his beliefs.

This unbiblical Greek philosophical term laid the foundation for the Trinity doctrine as later set forth in the church creeds. Indeed, by the end of the fourth century, the Trinity had essentially taken the form it has today, including the so-called third part of the godhead, the holy spirit.

So what if the term is unbiblical? Many terms are unbiblical that are used, even in Watchtower theology. That one wouldn’t be biblical, neither is “Bible”.

The Trinity definition took form way before that, as is omitted here. Church Fathers, anyone?

WHY SHOULD YOU CARE?

Jesus said that “the true worshipers will worship the Father with . . . truth.” (John 4:23) That truth has been recorded in the Bible. (John 17:17) Does the Bible teach that the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit are three persons in one God?

Here comes the usual rant. :slight_smile: There was no Bible. Scripture had not yet been canonised, therefore one could not appeal to “the Bible says so!”.

For one thing, the Bible does not mention the word “Trinity.”

This is repeated over and over by the JWs but it would be so much easier just to omit it, since it proves nothing. “Watchtower”, “magazine”, “Bible” and many others are not in the Bible either. This proves nothing.

For another, Jesus never claimed to be equal to God. Instead, Jesus worshipped God. (Luke 22:41-44)

While the first part is clearly false, the second part is not in contradiction the the Dogma. They have up to this point not provided an official exposition of the Dogma.

A person can know numerous truths about God and the Trinity by reciting the rosary every day with care and sincerity.

Trinity is a word often used to represent the triune nature of God. This triune nature of God is seen throughout the scriptures. There are many that deny this nature of God, even denying the deity of Yeshua. Those that follow these false teachings will not enter the eternal kingdom of God.

I wonder if the writer ever even read the Bible? References to the Trinity are frequent.

A few examples:

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

Matthew 3:16-17New International Version (NIV)

16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

2 Corinthians 13:14 - The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen. (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

John 14:26 - But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

1 John 5:7-8 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

John 14:16-17 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

1 Peter 1:2 - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT)

This is in regard to the term "Trinity."  It ignores the three Persons in the New Testament, and their importance.  Who are they but the Trinity?  A word which did not exist at the time the Bible was written.