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Was Jesus put to death by the Jews for His actions or for who He claimed to be?

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  • Anonym
    vor 4 Jahren
    Beste Antwort

    'cause of who he claimed to be making himself equal with god

    "i and the father are one..." 31the jews took up stones again to stone him... 32jesus answered them, "i showed you numerous good works from the father; for which of them are you stoning me?" 33the jews answered him, "for a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy; and 'cause you, being a man, make yourself out to be god..." (john 10:30-33)

    what was it that jesus had said or done that caused the jews to say that he was claiming to be god? was it "i and the father are one"? if so, why would that cause the jews to want to kill jesus? perhaps it was something else... maybe it was something jesus said elsewhere that made them so angry...

    there are only two places in john where the jews wanted to kill jesus with stones... both of these occur after jesus spoke and made a claim about himself... the first was in john 8:58-59, and the second was in john 10:30-33...

    also read john 5:18...

  • vor 4 Jahren

    +2

  • Mr
    Lv 5
    vor 4 Jahren

    It was an ancient custom in a crisis of great danger, that the ruler of the city or nation should give his beloved son to die for the whole people, as a ransom offered to the avenging demons.(J. G. Fraser, The Golden Bough, 1912, V 3 P 166)

    There were at the time when the Gospels were written, many myths of dying and resurrected Gods… Christianity rose and developed amidst a welter of superstitious religions and mystical cults.(John Lewis: Religions of the World made Simple, P 102)

    Mortality and immortality are mutually exclusive characteristics. God is ever living, and cannot die.

  • Raja
    Lv 7
    vor 4 Jahren

    Nobody can escape from their sins. Every human being must face the consequences of their actions. That's natural law. God cannot watch each and every human being at the same time. That's why He had created the spirits to watch, guide and determine the destiny of the human beings from their daily activities, talks and thoughts too. His death was predetermined by the spirits. There is no doubt in it but why it was determined so is the question. You search, you will get some reason. I guess He had paid for his own sins but good deeds are always remembered that's why He is respected and worshiped even now. I think that there is difference between ancient and present day spirits. The ancient spirits must have had strict principles or laws in judging the matters.

    Probably his statement that he was a God and King to heaven might have created a conflict among spirits and ended in that way. It seems the incidents that happened in his last moments of his life on earth explains indirectly the issue which he had with God and spirits. Human beings cannot know what is happening among spirits. Jesus was a human being. He didn't know this. In this case, God is the King Herod and other people are spirits.

    God never bothers who believe Him. God cannot watch each and every human being at the same time. That's why He had created the spirits to watch, guide and determine the destiny of the human beings from their daily activities, talks and thoughts too. Your past determines your present and your present determines your future. God has given freewill to all creatures including human beings. According to this, all human beings have all right to live a life as they wish. But if it happens to be bad and hurts someone, they have to face the consequences. These consequences are created by spirits. It's a natural system. After death no one lives in any form. Heaven and hell are only for spirits. Spirits are separate elements. A human being is not a single spirit. A human being during his/her life time is living with many spirits which have joined one by one since birth. They are knowledge, skills, feelings, emotions, interests and everything. Even thoughts are not your own. For example, when you want to take a decision on a subject, one after another the spirits think and you just listen, choose or reject the ideas which they transmit to your mind through your brain in the form of thoughts. A human being is just a robot made of flesh, bones, tissues etc., and a toy of the spirits for their games.

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  • vor 4 Jahren

    Jesus' affirmation before the Sanhedrin that he was “the Christ the Son of God” was judged to be blasphemy. (Matt. 26:63-66) Therefore, the Jews charged Jesus with blasphemy. (Mark 14:61-64; John 10:33) Pilate found in him “not deserving of death,” but because the Jews charged him also with sedition, Jesus was impaled as an accursed criminal. (Matthew 27:38-44;Luke 23:13-15, 25)

  • vor 4 Jahren

    The Jews thought (and still think to this day) that Jesus was a false prophet. Before his death, he did not complete a vast majority of the prophecies the Old Testament prophet was deemed to complete. Since this is the case, Jews think (and rightfully so) that Christ was the greatest false prophet to ever live. And if he isn't the Messiah (according to the Old Testament he is not), that's most definitely the truth. He's caused billions of people to follow him throughout the last few thousand years. If he's truly a false prophet like the Old Testament says he is, the people that are following him will be damned. Why would people follow a man and not worship the god of Abraham?

    I don't know, I'm atheist, but if I believed in creation, it definitely wouldn't be Christianity I followed. The Bible said the messiah would come to bring world peace. Christ claimed from the beginning to be here to bring war. That should be evidence enough that he was a false prophet!

  • Anonym
    vor 4 Jahren

    No

    Neither

    Firstly

    According to the UN, the Jews were nowhere near the area until the 20th century.

    Any blame and responsibility should go to the Palestinian Arabs.

    That aside --

    According to secular historical accounts, Jews knew nothing about Jesus, except for the small group of his followers in a Northern Israeli village, until the later first century - a few dozen years after his death.

    According to the Gospels,

    Jesus was tried and convicted by a ROMAN court and executed by a ROMAN execution squad for the crime of "sedition" -- for urging Jews to revolt against Rome.

    There is a story in the Gospels about a Jewish trial - but that account is very confused and self-contradictory and contrary to everything known about Jewish jurisprudence,

    with every indication that it was invented and put in later as an anti-Jewish caricature -- and in any case, that trial bore no result -- the Jewish court simply released him to Roman custody.

    Further, according to other books of the New Testament (Acts),

    immediately following the death of Jesus,

    the early followers of Jesus had no conflict with their normative Jewish neighbors except as they may get thrown out of synagogues when they interrupted services to talk about Jesus.

  • He was put to death mainly for who he claimed to be. He claimed to be not only The Messiah, but a descendant of King David, The Son of God, and mortal yet all powerful at the same time. Christ cannot be the Messiah because He did not fulfill anything The Messiah was supposed to fulfill, such as restoring Israel and bringing peace to this world.

    It says explicitly in biblical text that The Messiah must be completely human. There are many signs of this; see Isaiah 53, for instance.

    Lastly, one cannot be mortal and immortal at the same time. These are contradicting qualities. God is everywhere, everything, can do anything and everything, and is immortal.

    Best wishes.

    Quelle(n): Jew that has studied The Gospels
  • vor 4 Jahren

    According to the canonical gospels, Jesus, the Christ, was arrested, tried, and sentenced by Pontius Pilate to be scourged, and finally crucified by the Romans.

    So . . . The Romans did it. It is Italian people you should direct your anger and hate toward, if this is your motivation.

    Plus, you say this as if some outside force - The Jews - are to blame. Jesus was a jew. It was his peers who betrayed him. If he had been another ethnicity, hanging out with other, similar people, maybe it would have been them.

    All of this, of course, goes on the assumption that he existed in the first place, and that the scriptures have a shred of accuracy..

  • vor 4 Jahren

    Yet, the foregoing pales into insignificance when compared with the injustices wrought upon Christ Jesus. The death sentence on him involved falsehood and an illegal trial. The Roman governor on the judgment seat lacked the strength to stand up for what he saw was right. (John 18:38-40) Yes, on Christ Jesus, Satan inflicted the greatest injustice ever inflicted on anyone!

    In the case of Jesus, he died. Yet, God resurrected him and exalted him to a position “far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name named.” (Ephesians 1:20, 21) The injustice that Satan wrought on Christ Jesus could not prevent Jehovah from rewarding his Son. Jesus was confident that Jehovah could instantly undo the injustice of the illegal arrest if that was His will. Yet, Christ also knew that Jehovah has a time for fulfilling the Scriptures and for undoing any injustices.

    Quelle(n): Bible/jw.org
  • WOOWHO
    Lv 7
    vor 4 Jahren

    i can not VERIFY anything that is stated in the NT as to FACT , because there are no records outside the writings of the writers of the gospels that CONFIRMS most of what is stated places some names countries peoples are

    , what was or became the books of the bible were VOTED on by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD , They could put in what they want and OMIT what they wanted ....

    When you are the INVENTOR of your own STORIES ( BOOK)

    You become the MASTER of what it say

    , You run into Trouble when others hold you accountable to CONFIRM what one claims , Now if one wants me to READ the STORIES as a Basis , My first question is it HEARSAY

    , in one part of the book it said the Apostles were in HIDING in FEAR after the arrest . so how can the supposed apostle writing the story be Present to KNOW the conversation , let alone ALLOWED in To know what was spoken at the trial ,

    , so if the Romans had a trial they would have the records as the Official documents of a trial , yet we have writings of claimed apostles 30 70 110 years later .... Maybe the VATICAN has the roman trial transcript , perhaps they should produce it ,,

    , some say it was a charge of SEDITION ...... claiming your the KING . fits sedition roman Law goes back to 500 BC and there are hundreds , new laws added I reviewed all i could find

    there was no LAW against claiming you were a God or a son of god or divine

    , Pharaohs claimed they were gods and so did Roman emperors but most of the time not declared a God until After they are death ...now some might have had power effect their thinking with feeling of grandeur an being like a god

    supposedly there was another guy going around like a Messiah in 6 AD Judas of Galilean , No account confirmed of how he died some suggest in battle during a revolt , the ACTION or BEHAVIOR is SEDITION regardless if you claimed you believed you had a right to revolt because you viewed or claimed you were a god .. I do not think calling yourself a god was a crime ACTIONS were a Crime

    as in today people might say Joe claims he is a god and point to their head and do a circular motion with their finger , or say YA right joe has lost it again , now !600 years earlier with Moses People might have believed a lot Moses wasn't exactly shy with forced indoctrination and the use of his sword he slaughtered 3000 hebrews for a statue (CALF) and the people just RESORTING back to there OLD GOD ideas ( Egyptian APIS Bull worship )

    .to the Jews Messiah was not a God But a man a leader a warrior to free the Jews from oppression and to independence and possible be declared king if one succeeded in the Independent of the Jews

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