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When Jesus told one of the thieves that he will be with Him in paradise TODAY, did He mean a different day?

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  • o O o
    Lv 6
    vor 4 Jahren
    Beste Antwort

    He was going to Abraham's bosom with Jesus. The other thief was going to the regular sheol that was still controlled by the devil.

  • vor 4 Jahren

    Jesus was NOT in paradise that day while he was alive OR after he died. Jesus knew he would be placed in a tomb and would be there for at least parts of three days. That is why earlier, it is recorded that Jesus told the crowds that they would not receive any sign other than the sign of Jonah, since the death-like situation that Jonah was in prefigured the period of time that Jesus was in the tomb.

    So since Jesus was not in paradise THAT DAY, it is reasonable that the thief knew it would be some day into the future before Jesus would begin his rule and take up bringing people back to life.

    That is why the thief said "Remember me when you get into your kingdom".

    Jesus was making the guarantee to the thief THAT DAY that he would remember him and that he would be brought back to life in the resurrection.

    Quelle(n): One of Jehovah's Witnesses
  • BJ
    Lv 7
    vor 4 Jahren

    Absolutely yes.

    While Jesus was hanging on a stake, one of the evildoers alongside him, observing that Jesus was not deserving of punishment, requested: Jesus, remember me when you get into your kingdom.

    Jesus replied: Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.

    In effect, Jesus said: On this dark day, when my claim to a kingdom is to outward appearances highly unlikely, you express faith. Indeed, when I do get into my kingdom, I will remember you.

    This would require a resurrection for the evildoer. This man was not a faithful follower of Jesus Christ. He had been engaged in wrongdoing, lawbreaking meriting the death penalty.

    The evildoer, Jesus said, would be in Paradise. The word means a park or pleasure ground.

    The paradise in which the evildoer will be would not be the paradise of God promised to him that conquers, at Revelation 2:7, for the evildoer was not a conqueror of the world with Jesus Christ.

    This promise differs from what Jesus has told his apostles, namely, that they would sit on thrones with him in the Kingdom. Matthew 19:28

    Was Jesus promising that the man would enter into heaven? No.

    The man had not been born again from water and spirit, which was a prerequisite for entering the Kingdom of the heavens. John 3:3-6

    Rather, Jesus was promising that the criminal would live again, in Paradise.

    Being a Jew, the man was likely familiar with the earthly Paradise the garden of Eden described in the first book of the Bible. Genesis 2:8

    Jesus’ promise gave him the assured hope of a resurrection to Paradise when it is reestablished on earth.

    Now this robber can die with that hope before him.

  • vor 4 Jahren

    he meant the spirit world of paradise and definitely not a spirit prison or outer darkness. , and think about this, he was not yet baptized, and baptism is part of the definition of being born again, so he didn't enter the kingdom of God yet, until baptism for the dead was performed on him by proxy. there was a resurrection of the first fruits during the next few days and probably throughout the world for the next year. aiui. I doubt a thief qualifies for being a part of the first fruits resurrection. but I cannot admit I know any different.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    vor 4 Jahren

    Believe it or not, the matter *is* disputed.

    Some (few) claim that Jesus meant

    - “Truly I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

    which seems to me silly since the person to whom Jesus was speaking knew that Jesus was speaking to him on that day (he wasn't magically hearing the words that Jesus had spoken yesterday or the day before), and Jesus surely would have realized that.

    So: it seems clear to me that the meaning is

    - “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

    that is to say, that the person to whom Jesus was speaking would be in Paradise on that day, and so would Jesus.

    There is another possibility, the idea that the word "day" is being used with a meaning "age" or "period of time of undetermined length" (as is often the case in the Bible) rather than "24-hour period" or "daylight period". However, in the Greek this particular word is not used to mean "age" or "period of time of undetermined length".

    http://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/gwview.cg...

    I can only conclude that Jesus meant literally that very day, before the end of that day.

  • Anonym
    vor 4 Jahren

    No. the thieves died the same day Jesus died. And one went to Heaven and the other to hell while Jesus went to the place of the dead.

  • vor 4 Jahren

    No. That man qualified to get to Heaven. The other man did not.

    If you mean Jesus' getting to Heaven. Remember when Moses and John came and visited Jesus with just their soles?

  • Anonym
    vor 4 Jahren

    As far as I'm concerned, TODAY means today. Just like when we read ... For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God ... it means ALL, not some.

  • vor 4 Jahren

    'Today' refers to when Jesus told him, not to the fact the thief was to be in paradise before the day ran out.

    I'm telling you today, you will be with me in paradise.

  • vor 4 Jahren

    You mean as in days as we know them? Possibly.

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