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Lv 6

Name some Good things and human rights that we have that hasn't a religious background to it?

9 Antworten

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  • vor 6 Jahren

    Here are just a few:

    Freedom of religion, or none.

    The right to marry outside your religion.

    The right to live with your partner without having to marry.

    Same-sex marriage.

    Contraception.

    Not having to be a virgin until married (for women mainly).

    Civil and human rights.

    I remember when I was a child in the 1950s that the moral standards were based on religious or biblical ideas: unmarried women who weren't virgins were disowned and had children taken away from them for adoption, homosexuality was illegal and carried a prison sentence, and white people considered themselves superior to other races. There was no concept of civil or human rights. By the time I started work in 1970 things had improved, but women weren't allowed to wear trousers to work, Health & Safety at work wasn't even a concept, and people actually smoked in the workplace.

    In my 63 years, my experience is that morality has generally become more compassionate and we have become more free as we adopt secular ideas that replace religious ones. I wonder what people in 50 years will consider as barbaric that we now consider normal.

    It's secularism that allows freedom of religion (or none), freedom of individuals to live fulfilling and happy lives, and that allows for civil and human rights. Before secularism there was no protection of minorities such as gay people from hatred (claimed as "love") and persecution.

  • Anonym
    vor 6 Jahren

    Name some Good things and human rights that we have that hasn't a religious background to it?

    ---- Human rights. (If you're claiming that human rights have a "religious background" then you need to explain why human rights, and their precursors didn't exist until secular governments created them. That's a serious discrepancy.)

    (Unless, of course, you're going to fall on the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.)

  • NOTHING comes from religion. That people choose to wrap a religious blanket around a pre-existing attitude or belief or characteristic does not mean that religion originated the concept.

    In any event, there are human rights that have no religious basis. Please explain to me where the bible says that humans have a right to freedom of religion?

  • Al
    Lv 7
    vor 6 Jahren

    Some good things and human rights that we have that do not have a religious background to them: justice, equality of sexes, equality of races, health care, scientific inquiry, philosophy, philanthropy.

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  • Anonym
    vor 6 Jahren

    You fail to realize that religion came after all the good things (like love and respect) and took responsibility for them.

    Good things and human rights all existed long before religion.

  • Mack
    Lv 7
    vor 6 Jahren

    The Inquisition, Crusades, destruction of civilizations throughout the Americas, witch/heretic/gay burnings... Oh, you said without a religious background.

  • Anonym
    vor 6 Jahren

    All of them.

    Religions claim responsibility for stuff that was around a loooong time before they were.

  • vor 6 Jahren

    Human rights are not based in religion.

    "Equality for all" certainly has no religious history.

    "Peace among men" for sure has no religious history.

    How about "Gay rights", "Atheist rights", "Women's rights"?..

  • ?
    Lv 7
    vor 6 Jahren

    The end of slavery. Modern Christians like to believe it was Christian values that encouraged people to end slavery. But Jesus himself was so casually ok with slavery that he didn't even notice when he was talking about it. Go read his stories about "servants" who are beaten and even brutally executed by their righteous masters. You don't beat and kill employees. You fire them.

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    A morality based on compassion. Jesus based his moral framework on punishment and reward. Everywhere you look, he connects morality to your relationship with God. Even charity. When he talks about charity, it's never about the suffering of the poor; it's always about you and God. For most people, being good is its own reward, and it has to do with reducing the suffering in the world. Jesus never taught such lofty ideas.

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    Due process. Jesus tells the story of a king who has a law-abiding citizen hideously tortured on an angry whim (Matthew 18:21-35). In Acts Chapter 5, the Apostle Peter takes this parable to heart, summarily executing a man and his wife who have committed no crimes. Judgment, sentencing, and execution by an uneducated peasant of rural Palestine, with no legal authority whatsoever. I've never heard anyone call that what it really is: murder.

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    Minimum wage laws. In Matthew 20:1-16, Jesus tells an appalling story about the owner of a richly thriving business who hires underemployed laborers in bad faith, then rubs their noses in his right to do as he wants with his own money. Is this greedy cheat punished severely? No, he's the protagonist. His right to behave this way is the whole point of the story, as Jesus explains: this is how God will treat his servants.

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    Family values. In Matthew Chapter 10, Jesus whips himself into a vulgar, anti-family frenzy. He starts off lewdly visualizing violent family discord, savoring their strife, enumerating specific relationships, all of them betraying each other and having each other killed. He gets distracted for a moment, but then really goes for it, announcing that he has come to Earth not to bring peace, but a sword. He clearly means a sword with which to tear families apart: no sooner does he say this than he falls right back into his original, salacious reverie, chanting an anti-family passage from an Old Testament prophet. When he's finished, he goes for it again, proclaiming that if you love your father, or mother, or son, or daughter more than you love Jesus, then you're not worthy of him.

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    Reduction of racism: in Matthew Chapter 15, Jesus heaps unbelievable racial abuse on a woman of the "wrong" race, but then turns condescending when she degrades herself sufficiently. Christians are always making clueless comments about Jesus "testing her faith". Look at it through the woman's eyes. Was it her great faith in Jesus that made her persist? Jesus conceitedly thinks so, commending her for her faith. She did it for her terribly suffering daughter, not to inflate Jesus' vanity. Did she care whether he was "testing" her? I guarantee you, even though he gave her what he asked for, she went home despising him.

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    Social equality: Jesus tells story after story about people of the wealthy upper class trampling all over the most basic human rights of poor people in the lower classes. And with the exception of the story of Lazarus the beggar, these aristocrats are always the protagonists, intended to represent God himself. The commoners and slaves are always the ones in the wrong.

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