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? fragte in Social ScienceGender Studies · vor 7 Jahren

Given that rape is about power and not sex, is the best final line of defense to feign enthusiastic interest?

Since the rapist wishes to exert power over their victim, wouldn't apparent consent make him or her lose their desire to commit the act? I am of course not suggesting the victim lead off with pretend consent, but only act amorously once it is clear the perpetrator will not take no for an answer.

Update:

Lilith: For most people, simply laying there isn't consistent with enthusiastic consent.

Update 2:

Damian: That is possible, but isn't it better for the victim to avoid the rape if there is a chance?

Update 3:

Madluv: Great idea! The victim can be proactive and offer all kinds of degrading acts. This should throw the rapist off his or her game even more!

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  • vor 7 Jahren
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    That might prove that rape is NOT strictly about power the way feminists have propagated the idea for political reasons.

    We've heard this so often that most people now believe it to be true. But it's not. Rape, (the classic 'rape' which is the one that comes to mind when one hears the word 'rape') is a mixture of sexual deviancy and criminality. So the best method of avoiding rape is to reduce the opportunity for rape to occur. (and now you can see, this already goes against the feminist wish to indemnify all women for their actions).

    Any other kind of rape, from date/marital rape to regret sex is definitely not about power either, but more along the lines of miscommunication, differing expectations, and on the ugly side, hormones and perversion, but not really about power. By successfully painting ALL definitions of rape as being about power, feminists are able to portray even bad dates as being a full-stop criminal act that has no other explanation, circumstances, justification or cure.

    This will be very unpopular, but needs to be brought to light if we intend to get to the root of solving rape.

  • vor 7 Jahren

    You could go to the dangerous part of your city and hang around and ask the gangs to 'rape you' to test your theory, but you may live to regret it.

    The only reason many people who are being raped, lie there and take it, is because they are too scared to move. The attacker will have made threats about killing them or their loved ones. The attacker will probably have tied them in some way or will be using their physical strength against their victim.

    Edit - TGB & Peter - If rape is just about SEX, why do so many heterosexual men, rape other MEN?

    Yes of course avoidance is always the wisest option, however, who knows which random person is going to turn into a rapist, so you could end up restricting your lifestyle worrying about who is going to be the next nutter.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    vor 7 Jahren

    This has actually been tried by rape victims. If the woman pretends to be willing and the guy is wanting the sex to be forced, he just beats her a few times about the head and neck and pretty soon she stops being willing again...but that is mostly seen in stranger rape.

    A lot of date rape is about feeling entitled to initiate or continue to have sex because the woman willingly consented to some sort of intimacy before that. It's basic false entitlement, and it is a type of power trip to force the woman to go all the way when she is no longer willing...but a lot of it is also about getting off.

    The truth is that most men do not feel inclined to continue if their partner is no longer wanting it. The men who still feel excited and inclined to continue against their partner's will are not normal and probably do get sexually excited by forcing his will on a woman in a sexual manner.

    Edit:

    Also, just because the victim is pretending to consent, it doesn't mean they're not being raped...it means they are being coerced to have sex as a way to avoid being physically hurt. It is still considered rape, and it is still prosecutable.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    vor 7 Jahren

    This could simply anger a rapist and lead to violence.

    I remember reading a case where a Serial Rapist became a Serial Killer. The woman made the fatal mistake of lying still, stopping all struggling and faking consent. This began to anger the man, which lead to him bludgeoning her to death.

    When I said stopping all struggling, she was trying to act as though she was complying with his wishes - it's extremely hard to pretend to enjoy something painful, degrading, and dehumanising. Penetration without lubrication is immensely painful.

    However, there is a possibility of this working, as the motive of assaults do vary. Some rapists are aroused by fear and struggling, whilst others fantasize about their victims finding the acts pleasurable and meaningful. This would lightly work in cases where the victim personally knowns the rapist - partner, relative, friend.

    Furthermore, many rapists merely see their victims as objects and nothing more, especially Serial Rapists. They rarely care about enthusiasm.

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    Please note that I'm going from the angle of stranger rape. Sorry.

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    You should watch interviews of Serial Rapists where they specifically highlight their motives. The most informative and interesting is one of Ted Bundy.

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    Also, I don't believe that rape is always about power. That's false.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    vor 7 Jahren

    The best thing to do when under any kind of assault is to remain calm. Many rapists also fantasize that their victims are enjoying the act- so I don't think that pretending to want it would help. Also, most rapists will beat their victim first or bind them, so it would be hard to ignore the trauma of the event and pretend to enjoy it. Just try to not show fear and think of ways to get out of the situation. I think most people should learn basic self defense.

  • Damian
    Lv 7
    vor 7 Jahren

    Interesting thought but I would be concerned that any type of consent, even "pretend", could be used as a defence by the attacker who will obviously use any means to try to avoid prosecution if caugh

  • Anonym
    vor 7 Jahren

    Um I won't go into detail as people like possably yourself will just be rude, but from personal experience yes it can be about sex as well as power.

    In fact most rapes within relationships are about sex, not total power. So facts first please unless you've lived it and know

    And yes many women (And men) have pretended to be for it once they realise that it's going to be rape and at the opportune moment try to get out of it. This hardly works. There are many people who try many things to stop a rapist. Not a lot work.

  • Anonym
    vor 7 Jahren

    A rapist isn't 'looking for' anything, the fact is, that they disregard you as a person, so NO.

    Play-acting won't help, poking an eye-out will though(it requires some courage, but if you take an eye, when someone attacks you, the tables turn), same goes for breaking fingers, anybody can snap a pinkie, and it'll buy you enough time to get away.

    Quelle(n): The complete disrespect literally means there's NOTHING you can do to appease the attacker, all you can do is counter the aggression, with an act of pure-aggression, and get away.
  • ?
    Lv 7
    vor 7 Jahren

    That would be the wrong way to go.

  • vor 7 Jahren

    Absolutely not!

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