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Atheists: How can you say there is no proof of God when the proof is all around us?
...that He is invisible?
Why can't you see that?
18 Antworten
- ANDRE LLv 7vor 8 Jahren
"Does it mean, if you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of things in the past that the physicists at the time didn't understand [and now we do understand.] If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on - so just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem."~Neil deGrasse Tyson
-If the Universe needs a creator, why doesn't god?
If god doesn't need a creator, why does the Universe ?-
“Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever.” ― Sam Harris
Hypocrite.
- vor 8 Jahren
The fact that the Sun moved from East to West across a flat Earth was all the Greeks needed to see , when they accepted that fact as proof that Apollo was real.
If anyone would apply the same standards of proof to their current favorite gods(which they believe to be real) as they do to anybody else's favorite gods (which they believe to be absolutely fictional), I doubt that their current favorites would survive the ordeal.
- NousLv 7vor 8 Jahren
The only way primitive religion exists today is through the child abuse of forcing it into very, very young children but thanks to better education and growing intellects so many teens are able to discover the truth, throw off the indoctrination and step into the real world!
Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!
There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?
Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!
At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!
Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?
Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!
Josephus AD 37 – AD 100
Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120
Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD
Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD
Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD
Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.
Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD
Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD
Photius AD 877 – 886 AD
Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.
Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!
Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.
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- DerekLv 4vor 8 Jahren
Like this "There is no god. Get over it and get a life."
If your god did exist he would have the tempermant of a child.
Would have the blood thirst that exceads that of your devil 1000 fold.
Would be a lazy ***** who can't talk to his mass followers himself in person.
- Anonymvor 8 Jahren
God is not invisible...he isnt a man either. God is light and energy...the source of life.
- ?Lv 6vor 8 Jahren
Must be those clearly visible invisible qualities that somehow leaves us without excuse.
- vor 8 Jahren
Which mode of proof? There are different types, the most infalliable of which is scientific proof, but of course that won't apply to your suggestion.
- Anonymvor 8 Jahren
Because what you call "proof"' of your "gods'' existence, also qualifies as proof of Zeus' existence (according to your definition)
- Anonymvor 8 Jahren
And that teapot orbiting between Mars and Jupiter is also invisible!
Prove it isn't there!