Opinions on Domestic Abuse Laws?

It seems to me that somewhere in past 3 decades or so, the morality and ethics have shifted.

It used to be that justice was there more to protect the innocent and punish the guilty. Now its punish the guilty or find someone to punish.

No one is presumed innocent. Not if you are a men anyway. There is a special treatment for rich, powerful, minorities and women.

One thing that the laws can do, is turn a person into an abuser if pushed over the edge as being incarcerated, possibly losing employment, not being able to see your kids, fighting in court and spending any little money you may have, having a record when you have gone your whole life without one.

All on a false domestic violence charge.

Sure for the real deal it is good, but how do they know. Where is the evidence apart from a possible vexatious womans word.

What gives them the right to assume someone guilty before innocent. What gives them the right to have such a high collateral damage on men (and kids for that matter) just because some stupid women repeatedly go out with such abusive men.

I think the law still has a ways to go. The number of intimate partner homicides is still extremely high and almost every day you read about a husband killing his wife and children. The law is having very little affect on these people and some other intervention needs to be implemented. Chris Brown spoke of the impact of being exposed to domestic violence impacted his life so maybe we should be working with children and helping them make better choices in dealing with anger issues. The amount of money put into jailing people isn't working so why not try some preventative programs for a change.

Btw I have worked with a lot of law enforcement agencies and I have never seen the statement, "the bigger of the two". That sounds like some more propaganda to me. Check out real sites and not blogs where you are getting a disgruntled persons opinions. There are actual justice sites where you can read the laws as well as see the statistics to back up the claims.

I think the foolhardy thing about these laws is that they might mean FEWER prosecutions for domestic abuse because the victim will be afraid that if she reports an abuser then that will be the end of her relationship because he'll be locked up. She might think to herself I'll only report him if he does it again or if he does it twenty times or whatever. A lot of abuse victims don't want to end their relationships. They just want the abuse to stop. That is usually a naive hope but it's the hope that would stop them from reporting abuse.

Some victims seem to have a psycological dependence on abusive men because they often go from one abusive relationship to another. I think they should get counselling for this just as abusers should get counselling.

What if a women gets even while he sleeps I DID still do abuse if I get mad. Big deal Mind your own business I say.

i feel that when they reject the ability for the victim to drop the charges is in some way affecting basic human rights. in the sense that they have a choice to get revenge, or let it slide.

There are already laws protecting women from abuse. It is already illegal to hit people. Why women need special laws?

The facts here are simple:

Feminists want more men criminalized, and thus push for biased laws which affect men - hence the use of language like "the larger of the two", ensuring the man will almost definitely be the one dragged away, losing his home, losing his rights to even see his children, and so forth.

Yes, the laws go too far - and feminists want it to stay that way.

The legal system itself is a 'necessary evil' in my opinion.

It's usually useless, but in some scenarios it's beneficial enough to keep.

I'd rather less gov't, but until we have people with more common sense, necessary evil.

Judging by how many people are ultimately killed by their stalkers, and having experienced the frustration through a friend of trying to get restraining orders against an ex-boyfriend (who had repeatedly broken into her home), I don't think the law currently protects people enough from violent stalkers.