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When Saul swore to destroy the church of Jesus, did he keep his word?

Jesus had a simple church where people would gather for social discourse in homes and supper halls. When Saul got hold of it, the keys to Heaven and Earth he gave to Peter were keys to keep people out of the church Peter and Paul did not like. Didn't he keep his oath to destroy the church Jesus made? "Wherever two or more are gathered in my name, there so am I." Jesus said. But Saul made it so there was a church with doors kept locked by a priest paid for by collection baskets. What would Jesus do? What did he do and why don't Christians see the difference between Jesus' church and St Paul's Church?

Update:

"For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it; 14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. "

I think when he saw violence would not work, he tried to destroy from within by changing the values of the church to match his own. How often does a leopard change his spots?

Update 2:

Uh, why do you need credentials to raise a religious question? I am a college graduate and a recovering catholic (teehee)

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  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt
    Beste Antwort

    While I don't exactly see how Paul destroyed the church, you do bring up a * very * good point.

    The first church was not some spire-topped building, replete with repetitive chanting and movement. It was in manifested in simple, everyday homes with everyday people.

    Our church practices the latter and we enjoy it immensely.

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Great observation.

    James thought that the Messiah was meant for the Jews only, Saul, a devout Jew, took the religion and incorporated the Gentiles, making it distasteful to most Jews.

    Most Jews then recognized that Christianity couldn't be an extension of Judaism because of the inclusion of the unclean. In essense Saul/Paul saved Judaism from the Christian incursion by corrupting the message. Jesus himself said he didn't come for the Gentiles.

    What Selah fails to mention is that Paul told them that The Lord spoke to him.

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Kind of think he was bad a playing darts too

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    Because he missed the bulls eye by a couple of thousand years

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    And a miss that far off the target is no problem in playing the game of

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    Guess when it will happen

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    And not being able to win against someone like him standing in front of the dart board with his guess at where the bulls eye is located at

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    Is a no brainier game

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  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Your ignorance is showing, on the first day of the church (pentecost) the church had thousands of believers, by the time Saul came around it was tens of thousands

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  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Your points would carry a lot more weight if you included bible quotes to support your arguement?

    "But Saul made it so there was a church with doors kept locked by a priest paid for by collection baskets. " Bible quote please.

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    And your credentials are.....yogi wisdom?

    You are outranked on this one

    Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Utter nonsense, and poorly written to boot.

    How explain that it was the one Church, with the existing Christian Faith, that canonized those very passages. Shall we call YOU Pope ? Can I kiss your ring, Your Pompousness !

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    Lv 7
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    "No sooner had Jesus thrown down the altar of superstition than Paul set it up again in Jesus' name".

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Which fictional work are you referencing?

    That's not an accurate reference to the Holy Bible.

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Incey wincey spider climbed up the water spout...... You can fill in the rest.

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