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Roman Catholics, what do you mean by "Tradition"? ?

Is this a good example of it? -->http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200809...

I hope Shlane and Idle Curiosity gets to answer this also.

Update:

Miserere..: This is the KJ version of that passage:

"These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:

015: But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. "

The word "Catholic" is foreign for me to see in the Bible. (I havent seen it in any of the Bibles I've read; so far, I first saw it from you.)

Update 2:

Profe Migue: Do you mean those Gnostic writings should also be considered as having the same level with the Bible?

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  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt
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    what we mean by tradition is our beliefs that were handed down by word of mouth and example not just written in the Holy Bible. not everything was written in the Holy Bible so there are bound to be a few things that were passed down over the generations to us today.

  • OPM
    Lv 7
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    The word translated into English as "tradition" is Paul's word paradosis. It means to "hand on." In Catholicism, apostolic tradition is all things handed on by the apostles. It includes the bible, artwork (Luke painted), songs (there are still parts of the Catholic Church that use first century hymns), services (all Catholic services are shortened versions of services left by James, Mark, Peter and Thomas), beliefs, practices and stories. Some things, like the Rosary, are not really a part of Catholic Tradition, at least not in the sense of apostolic tradition. Communion is a part of Catholic tradition. The rosary is a big element of the spirituality of many Catholics, but it isn't universal. The base prayer form, however, is part of the Catholic tradition.

    It is the job of Catholic and Orthodox bishops to pass this on from generation to generation. See 2 Tim 1,3-14 for a scriptural reference.

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    The Christian Tradition is the word of God handed over from one generation of Christians to the other. Read in the Bible: 2 Tim 1,3-14

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    If somebody isn't behaving like they should, what does that have to do with tradition?

    Holy Tradition is the deposit of faith given by Jesus Christ to the Apostles and passed on in the Church from one generation to the next without addition, alteration or subtraction. Vladimir Lossky has famously described the Tradition as "the life of the Holy Spirit in the Church." It is dynamic in application, yet unchanging in dogma. It is growing in expression, yet ever the same in essence.

    Holy Apostolic Tradition is in in scripture, such as when St. Paul stated: "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you." (1 Corinthians 11:2)

    Consider Matthew 15:6–9, which Fundamentalists and Evangelicals often use to defend their position: "So by these traditions of yours you have made God’s laws ineffectual. You hypocrites, it was a true prophecy that Isaiah made of you, when he said, ‘This people does me honor with its lips, but its heart is far from me. Their worship is in vain, for the doctrines they teach are the commandments of men.’" Look closely at what Jesus said.

    He was not condemning all traditions. He condemned only those that made God’s word void. In this case, it was a matter of the Pharisees feigning the dedication of their goods to the Temple so they could avoid using them to support their aged parents. By doing this, they dodged the commandment to "Honor your father and your mother" (Ex. 20:12).

    Elsewhere, Jesus instructed his followers to abide by traditions that are not contrary to God’s commandments. "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice" (Matt. 23:2–3).

    What Fundamentalists and Evangelicals often do, unfortunately, is see the word "tradition" in Matthew 15:3 or Colossians 2:8 or elsewhere and conclude that anything termed a "tradition" is to be rejected. They forget that the term is used in a different sense, as in 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15, to describe what should be believed. Jesus did not condemn all traditions; he condemned only erroneous traditions, whether doctrines or practices, that undermined Christian truths. The rest, as the apostles taught, were to be obeyed. Paul commanded the Thessalonians to adhere to all the traditions he had given them, whether oral or written.

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  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Catholics believe that the “bible alone theory” is not what the bible teaches.

    The Bible is the word of God. In sections 131-133 the Catechism we find this:

    “Hence “access to sacred scripture out to be open wide to the Christian faithful”…

    Therefore the study of the sacred page should be the very soul of sacred theology…

    The Church forcefully and specifically exhorts all Christian faithful.. To learn the surpassing knowledge

    Of Jesus Christ. By frequent reading of the Divine Scriptures. Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of

    Christ…The Church is telling Catholics read your bible….The Catholic Mass is totally Bible centered…

    The Processional March of each Mass is lead by a person holding the Cross and then a person holding the Bible up high in the air…The Catholic Church protected the bible across the ages until the Guttenberg Printing Press was invented. Century after Century , Monks in Monasteries faithfully copied scripture they were incredibly accurate. The Catholic Church was the first in the World to say that the Bible is unerring.

    We said this 1100 years before any Protestant denomination existed. Ironically, the way Evangelical denominations have decided to have Unity with each other is to agree not to look at scriptural references that they are in disagreement about. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Bible Alone is the only authority. However the Bible does say Jesus founded his Church and Gave it all authority. (Mat 16-18).

    Evangelicals often trust an “Authorities” interpretation of scripture rather than their own personal one.

    Every Evangelical that goes to a Bible study is being influenced by someone else’s interpretations of Scripture. We see the thousands of Denominations all of which claim to get their faith from the same Bible. And believe contrary Doctrines. Some turn to The New International Bible commentary in order to get the correct interpretation. So even for Martin Luther Scripture Alone wasn’t enough he acknowledged their had to be a “Human Authority “ governing it he just thought he should be this “Authority” Not the Catholic Church.. Over 33,000 denominations were formed because people came to irreconcilable differences over Scripture. If Truth is not relative then their Can be only one Truth. Therefore not everyone who honestly feels They are led by the Holy Spirit in reading Scripture is correct . Its sad but True… We sometimes need help interoperating Scripture Acts 8:30-31... Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition make up a single Sacred Deposit of The Word Of God…The teaching Church, with its Oral Traditions was Authorities .Indeed even the Gospels themselves are Oral Tradition That has been written Down Luke 1.1-4 To believe In Sola Scriptura is to ignore everything else Christ has brought to us. Traditions of the Early Fathers and Christians Writings of the early Chuch Fathers Christians and even traditions from the Old Testaments

    It is not the Bible, but the Catholic Church that is the foundation and the pillar of truth...

    "I write these things to thee hoping to come to thee shortly, but in order that thou mayest know, if I am delayed, how to conduct thyself in the house of GOD, which is the Church of the Living GOD, the pillar and mainstay of the truth." 1Tim 3:14-15

    Jesus also had this to say, "And if he refuse to hear them, appeal to the Church, but if he refuses to hear even the Church, let him be to you as the heathen and the publican. Amen I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed also in heaven."

    Jesus Christ founded a Church (Matthew 16:18). He did not command anyone to write a Gospel.

    The Word of GOD is a person, and not a book (John 1:1,14).

    The Catholic Church is based on the Word of GOD alone and not on Scripture alone.

    the Bible came from the Church, and that the Church did not come from the Bible. The Catholic Church is the Mother of the Bible, not the Daughter.

    THE BIBLE IS A CATHOLIC BOOK.

  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    No, your right that is not an example of tradition...looks more like an example of Fear.

    What the Catholic Church means by tradition: The term does not refer to legends or mythological accounts, nor does it encompass transitory customs or practices which may change, as circumstances warrant, such as styles of priestly dress, particular forms of devotion to saints, or even liturgical rubrics.

    Sacred or apostolic tradition consists of the teachings that the apostles passed on orally through their preaching. These teachings largely (perhaps entirely) overlap with those contained in Scripture, but the mode of their transmission is different.

    They have been handed down and entrusted to the Church. It is necessary that Christians believe in and follow this tradition as well as the Bible (Luke 10:16). The truth of the faith has been given primarily to the leaders of the Church (Eph. 3:5), who, with Christ, form the foundation of the Church (Eph. 2:20). The Church has been guided by the Holy Spirit, who protects this teaching from corruption (John 14:25-26, 16:13).

    Paul illustrated what tradition is: "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed" (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2).

    The first Christians "devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching" (Acts 2:42) long before there was a New Testament. From the very beginning, the fullness of Christian teaching was found in the Church as the living embodiment of Christ, not in a book. The teaching Church, with its oral, apostolic tradition, was authoritative. Paul himself gives a quotation from Jesus that was handed down orally to him: "It is more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35).

    This saying is not recorded in the Gospels and must have been passed on to Paul. Indeed, even the Gospels themselves are oral tradition which has been written down (Luke 1:1–4). What’s more, Paul does not quote Jesus only. He also quotes from early Christian hymns, as in Ephesians 5:14. These and other things have been given to Christians "through the Lord Jesus" (1 Thess. 4:2).

    Quelle(n): Catholic@Heart
  • vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Some christian things isn't writte on the Holy Bible.

    "There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written."

    John 21, 25

    For the other question, forever is difficult the people when don't think oneself. =S

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Doing something the way it has been done for years and years

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    With out changing the way it is done to make the people happy that got to church

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  • Sniper
    Lv 5
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    Oral Tradition!!!

  • Anonym
    vor 1 Jahrzehnt

    what it means is traditions of men aka church doctrines, which make void the word of God

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