Dear Christians and Jews is the below Bible verses true word of God?

The answer to this question must be determined in the light of the background of this incident and in relation to other scriptures.

Lot and his two daughters were the only persons to survive the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. After this destruction they began residing in the city of Zoar. However, for some reason Lot was afraid to continue dwelling there and, with his daughters, took up residence in a cave. (Gen. 19:30) Thereafter the firstborn said to her younger sister: “Our father is old and there is not a man in the land to have relations with us according to the way of the whole earth. Come, let us give our father wine to drink and let us lie down with him and preserve offspring from our father.”—Gen. 19:31, 32.

The fact that they sought to get their father intoxicated suggests that they realized he would never have consented to having sexual relations with them in a sober state. But under the circumstances, they felt that this was the only way to prevent the extinction of Lot’s family. They were aliens in the land and there was no one of their kindred with whom they could enter into marriage and thus preserve the family line. It should also be remembered that Lot’s daughters had resided among the morally debased inhabitants of Sodom. In view of these factors, it would not have been difficult for them to justify their course of action in their own minds. Why, then, does the account appear in the Scriptures?

The narrative is not presented in the Bible to stimulate erotic thoughts. It is there for a purpose, revealing the relationship of the Moabites and Ammonites to the descendants of Abraham who became known as Israelites. Lot being a nephew of Abraham, the Israelites were related to the Moabites and Ammonites, who descended from the two sons that Lot produced by means of his daughters. (Gen. 11:27) Later this fleshly relationship came to govern Israel’s actions in dealing with the Moabites and Ammonites. For example, in their taking over the land east of the Jordan River, the Israelites, under divine orders, were careful not to trespass on the landholdings of the Ammonites and Moabites.—Deut. 2:9, 18, 19, 37.

Is any sincere reader of the Bible left in doubt as to the conclusion that is to be drawn from this account concerning Lot and his daughters? Is he made to feel that such conduct is, perhaps, approved by God?

It is true that in Genesis chapter 19 the historical facts are conveyed without any comment respecting God’s approval or disapproval of Lot’s twice committing incest in an intoxicated state. But in later portions of the Bible record, God’s condemnation of drunkenness is clearly stated again and again. (Prov. 20:1; 23:20, 21, 29-35; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10) Likewise, in his Law to Israel, God later made clear his prohibition of incest, saying: “You people must not come near, any man of you, to any close fleshly relative of his to lay bare nakedness. . . . The nakedness of your father and the nakedness of your mother you must not lay bare.” (Lev. 18:6, 7) The penalty for violating the law on incest was death. (Lev. 18:29) While Lot and his daughters were not under the Law, they were, nevertheless, aware of the impropriety of having relations with their own father, as shown by the fact that they first got him intoxicated.

Why, then, is Lot called a “righteous man,” at 2 Peter 2:8? Not because God approved of his getting drunk, nor because God approved of incest. God did not approve such conduct. But it should be noted that there is nothing in the record to indicate that Lot was a habitual drunkard, nor was he habitually involved in acts of incest. His reputation was that of a “righteous man,” and this reputation he had with God, who examines the heart. Lot deplored the “lawless deeds” of the people of Sodom. And, evidently, for the Examiner of hearts to view him as righteous, Lot must also have grieved over the wrong conduct in which he himself got involved.

The inclusion of the information about Lot and his daughters in the Scriptural record should really help us to appreciate that the Bible is a book of truth. Even when persons who were known as God’s servants became involved in improper acts, the Bible does not conceal this. However, at all times such things are recounted, not to entertain or to stimulate a desire to indulge in immoral conduct, but to provide a background for understanding other events.

We live in world in which rape, drunkeness and incest are much too common place. About 1 in 4 women will experience some kind of a rape or sexual assult during their lifetime. I don't even want to know the statistics on how many people get drunk or stoned and do stupid things at some point during this life. So for the Bible to be the true word of God, it needs to address those issues. It needs to show the trouble that comes from getting so drunk that you can be molested (two nights in a row) and not know it. Or to show the results of incest. Both Moab and Ammon were real nations, known in history and from hundreds of sources outside of the Bible. They were both nations that were in consent conflict and war with each other and the Jews. Wars that would not have been happening had the daughters not raped their father. Dire consequences for their actions - probably thousands (if not millions) killed over the centuries because of it. Since this kind of thing happens frequently, of course God is going to include it in his word. He is showing the evil of such actions, and their consequences. He also places several laws against such actions, including drunkeness, rape and incest. If this was simply a book written by man, they would have swept all of that under the rug, and left Lot looking like a saint. God, however, records all the facts. How else are we to learn the evils of such deeds?

You have to look at the complete picture, We are not looking at the flood, or any other total destruction of the earth, But we are looking at Sodom & Gomorrah, 2 cities that God destroyed due to homosexuals & sodomites & Lot's daughters look at them being the only ones that survive the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah, Lots. 2 daughters did not know anything else but life in those cities. So God did not destroyed all the earth, only those 2 cities, therefore it left that feeling that God had destroyed the whole world again, That was the thinking of Lots, 2 daughters.

Yep. That's where you find that story, all right. Please note that one thing it makes obvious is that Madison Avenue did NOT invent PR.

Moab and Ammon were two tribes that were perpetually feuding with the Children of Israel. This little entry tells you WHY those people are such jerks. They're the product of an incestuous relationship and we all know that makes for tainted blood. Still, my fellow Israelites, they ARE related to us and we shouldn't be TOO hard on them. They can't help being jerks, after all; seeing as how they were brought into being in such a sinful way.

Not that that bit of adverse PR has anything to do with Christ and Christianity and Christians. Only atheists in search of nastiness and evangelicals in search of brain cells bother with that stuff anymore. It's as outdated as buggy whips. And just as useless for salvation.

the story described is in the Torah, yes.

just because its there does not mean its a good event!

in fact if I remember correctly the descendants from that event are one of the "people" that God condoned genocide towards.

whats your point?

edit: >>"no matter what kind of lame excuse you use, he knew and manipulated his own daughters, how about morals."<<

try reading the story... its specifically said that they got him so drunk that he didn't know his **** from a hole in the ground, whored themselves up and tricked him into it.

part of the whole point is that it was their idea!

for the added info. who knows exactly why that was. I would say its more that the "protection" only stemmed from his relation to abraham (Lot was abraham's nephew, I think) and thus only went so far. he isn't what most would call a "holy prophet" in Judaism, but merely a relation of Abraham, and the only good man(more or less) in the city.

why would you think Lot would count as " a holy prophet"?

Yes, that happened. It doesn't mean God is putting a stamp of approval on incest. It is recording of events. God will tell you when He's putting a stamp of approval on things, like the Gospel that saves has His 100% command:

The only way to be saved and go to heaven and not eternal hell is by believing that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross and rose again (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

All Scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching. The incident related to us about Lot and his daughters as recorded in Scripture is historically correct.

Hope that helps.

yup

but your variation of the wording differs

as the devastation was only to several towns and cities

and this is not of the linneage of the Jews

and If it was not for Abraham pleading with God to not destroy Lot,

Lot would have died in the destruction of the Sodomites

It would appear that you got this language from a Bible and as such - Yes, it is the Word of God.

What's your point?

Yup.

So it's no wonder that the highest rate of father-daughter incest happens in the "bible belt".