Arent we sometimes helping with sin?

Question

Asalam alaikum, im sure we all know the Quranic verse about cooperating in righteousness, but not help with sin and aggression.  Dont u think some of us sometimes do that in this category?  When we give advice to people that we just have to know will lead to sin, or at least dis-pleasing Allah(swt)  I speak of such things as advising women its ok to come to Egypt alone....advising them where to get alcohol.....what places are open and what there is to do late at night....when we talk about "pop singers" and movies and "soap operas"....when we dont even greet each other with "asalam alaikum"  When some have avatars, which I fear because it is hadith sahih that Allah(swt) will ask those who draw such things to breathe life into it?  Those sisters that use pictures instead, sometimes (astigfirAllah) with semi seductive look, or having some mens clothes on, or showing thier skin, etc etc.  Im ready for the thumbs down, or whatever, but please think, iswhat yur doing here pleasing to Allah?

Zoser · Accepted Answer

Adam : i do not really know what you are saying, once you wanted to destroy the pyramids ( your own words :'' .....would destroy all the pyramids except one, and it would be used to show the futility of pagan worship...not for people to admire the worst man in ...'')
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmpBCaBmjHJ7AbE.14Vj8SX97BR.?qid=20070811181542AAyy9Zo

then now,,,uff ,, what are you doing? I do not buy this role, plus Are you preaching Muslims , Islam!!!!, You are not Egyptian,, why do not you preach non Muslims Islam better than preaching Muslims Islam (are you selling water to harat alsakyeen) ,,,
Do you think , we do not have credible preachers who know Arabic and Islam way better than you,? are you trying to manipulate the  Egyptian minds? are you trying to show to the world that Egyptians are extremist,  (PEOPLE: HE IS NOT EGYPTIAN), why do not you preach in Dubai? Qatar, Bahrain, or wherever, 

To your knowledge Shi3a Muslims do not mind pictures or drawing, they even have pictures and drawing  of the Prophet peace be upon him and Aly (3leeh alsalam),and are sold in the streets of Iran,, ,,  Can you please leave the Egyptians alone,,, we have enough ...

Sahar: I am fed up, I did not want to answer anymore, that is how they work , to drive  people who can give real knowledge away out;;;; to control the place,,  but I could not, he is always talking as if we are Kofar .. Always forget that we had alazher more than a 1000 year ago(Studies began in Al-Azhar in Ramadan by October 975 AD,)

***  sahar : Is Rabat al beyot program still there??, wallahi it was more serious than here....hahaha

Can you blame them ? thinking is'' haram ''long time ago...but the real Islam spreaded by -ideal modesl and good examples - , not by destroying  cultures, statues and drawings,or by mahram(remind me of alhakem beamr allah ,(I hope Adam will not call for not  making and selling  women shoeses, that they can not go out to the streets) ....etc, I  ENCOURAGE ALL THE EGYPTIANS TO GO TO THE'' ISLAMIC MUSEUM'' IN BAB ALKHALK,  ''THE PALACE OF PRINCE MOHAMED ALY ''IN ALMANEAL  and the one in Abn Tulun mosque''The Gayer Anderson museum ;;,,, TO SEE WHAT THEIR GREAT PEOPLE DID...         .I HOPE

sistablu...Maat · Answer

I don't agree at all. this is primarily a site that people who wish to visit Egypt or to find out about what to expect when they do come here.
It is also were students can find out a little more about Egyptian traditions,culture and ancient history. 
It is not a site that should in anyway reflect the personal religious beliefs unless a question is specifically asked in regard to that issue. 
This has nothing to do with me being a western female. I am currently undertaking instruction in Islam and have accepted Islam as my religion.I am also being married in an Islamic ceremony,inashAllah.
My way of approaching Islam may be more moderate than yours. That is actually irrelevant as religion is and should always be between yourself and God.
 I think we should not let religion creep into discussion anywhere but in the delegated section for Religion and Spirituality.

The answer by Zoser and the other guys says it all much more eloquently than I am able at present. As you have made me feel something I dislike,anger over your intolerance and ignorance!
In addition regarding your avatar. It could be said that it is sexually orientated. A man astride a powerful motorbike is an image used frequently to portray sexuality in videos and magazines. People in glass houses...........

Moonrise · Answer

you are right in some points like the pictures of semi seductive looks.
by the way, i cant see your avattar properly. what's in it.
female tourists travel all over the world, so it's not a big deal they come to us.
we never advise about where to go to get alcohol. most of us dont even know the answer , or bother about such matters.
so, this point is off the mark.
about places a tourist can go late at night, who gave this advice? and if the advice is given, it doesnt intend aol muslimat al mohhasanaat. you mustnt apply islamic rules to foreigners. you must discriminate between advice given to muslims and that which is given to a foreigner.
about photos, our Prophet (PBUH) prohibited pictures and statues at a time of gahiliya when people worshipped sush things. now, we see the photo of the king of Saudia , and others are hanging in offices. are people worshipping them?
we see the statue of a great egyptian man in a square, do we worship it ?
as for al salamu 3alaykum, it's wonderful when i enter a place , physically, to show i come in peace, not in a state of war.
films and songs which arent  porno are allowed . how can we face the diseases of our society ? it's by art. when you find that a song or film is OVER, dont watch it. you have the option to choose . but we arent all sinners . 
finaly, we know that inama al a3maal bi al niyaat. if our niya is good, we dont sin, if a man looks at a woman with niqab and have a black intention, he is a sinner.
we want to wake up from this rend of wahabiya that wants to pull us backwards. we have to clean out hearts and minds and enjoy life in a simple and natural way.
if we keep saying, haram, haram , our lives will be like hell.
this problem is shown in the egyptian film, BA HHIB EL SEEMA. it's written , produced and directed by christians who find that there is a fanatic trend in christians  who dont allow themselves to enjoy simple pleasures, which has bad effects on them
we have to be alert to calls that draw us back or that throw us in hell. both are disastrous.

Lawrence of Arabia · Answer

I don't think advising women to come to Egypt alone is a sinful act.. and drawing and making statutes in not a "hadith sahih" it's "Hadith Ahad" that contradicts the verses:

"They made for him what he willed: synagogues and statues, basins like wells and boilers built into the ground. Give thanks, O House of David! Few of My bondmen are thankful.  يعملون له ما يشاء من محاريب وتماثيل وجفان كالجواب وقدور راسيات اعملوا ال داوود شكرا وقليل من عبادي الشكور "

I don't think AL-Dawood were sinning by having statues or drawn figures.

Or Jesus:

"I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird اني اخلق لكم من الطين كهيئة الطير " 

This will consequently lead us to ask: Why didn't Omar Ibn Al Khattab destroy the Sphinx and Pharaohs temples with all drawings on their walls when he came to Egypt? 

Regarding the rest I may agree with you.

Nony · Answer

I agree with you in the main point of the question but it's all come to you, you choose the question to answer, this category is like world, has good & has bad & you choose. Sure it's good to advice useres to take care of the questions they answer & Jazak Allah 7'ayran for that but I have 2 points for you:
1) If you don't greet the other with Alsalam 3alykom you lose El Thawab for that but it doesn't mean that you made sin but if any user said Alsalam 3alykom  so you have to answer it's order then, sure I agree that we should ecouarge greeting by Al Salam   3alykom & most users do but it doesn't mean that who don't  is wrong person.

2) Regarding to hadeeth you mentioned it's for full picture with full body but if it's part of the human body so it's ok & it's not my opinion of course it's for many religon men &Alaah only knows the truth.
Thanks for your question & Jazak Allah 7'ayran.

Anonym · Answer

No, you cannot make yourself sorry. You can only try to avoid the sin and Confess as well. Study what makes that sin a sin. There is nothing the Church teaches without reason.

Anonym · Answer

havent u asked ur self why muslims country  now are developing countries???? 

and why our societe is like that?

i will tell u the answer

the answer is that we are thinking about things that we are not sure of it  some ppl say no its forbidden  and others no its not
and these thing wont get us up or down and we leave the things that we must catch it with our teeth and never leave it 


we must use our minds and hearts  and look at islam at its real face

Anonym · Answer

assalam alikom brother
sorry Adam...i always dnt agree with Muslims like that....Islam is not everything-is-haram religion...
i dnt help ppl to come to egypt alone...anyway it's up to them...I'm not to preach and say:no no plz dnt come alone without a mehrem...
i dnt help them to find alcohol coz i dnt know anything about it....
as for the pics Adam,haven't you read shiekh AL-sha'rawy's explanation?.....when the prophet(salla Allah alyhe wa sallam) said the angels dnt enter a house if there's a dog or a sora....which is of course is translated by ppl like you that he meant pictures....were there pictures at the times of the prophet?....what he meant by forbidden is everything that imitates life....i.e.if you breath the soul into it it will become alive...like the statues.....will the pic walk and talk if a soul is breathed into it?
the hadith sahih is not talking about pictures my brother....
walahy that's his explanation by words.....

Sahar · Answer

we managed to screw up minds over there too, amazing :)

nb: zoser tele3 men to3o :))) sorry ya noor, i don't know how to say that in english
the thought of adam being undercover has crossed my mind, but then he can be just..extremist, adam this is extremism.

good thing i never read the part about destroying the pyramids, i would have demanded that adam be stoned to death in the middle of tahrir square at noon

i know exactly what you mean zoser, el ghareeba en e7na bardo 3amalna men el internet taba2 fool bel zeit, 3asarna 3aleih lamoona ye dasheina bassala, 3ala regheifein baladi, men beto3 zaman, el baladi el asmar eli beyloz dah...

it's so much easier to recite than to think for oneself, there was this question, what is the perfect woman, the answers, setena mariam, setena khadiga, akenena fi 2oola ebteda2i bensama3 eldars el tani elsaf7a el rab3a, yeli mesh hay2ool egaba namoozagueya bel 7arf men elketab mesh haygeeb magmoo3 yedakhalo koleya 3edla :))))

adel ya'kol al fool
ye maged yo7eb mama
ye zein za-ra-3a

anyway, each is entitled to his own opinion, ao opinion eli a3ed ganbo 3a takhta, kol wa7ed ye zeroofo :)

ya zoser now it's rabet el beit suzanne mubarak, mofrad, mesh gam3, el gam3 dah etlagha men zaman ye ba2a men el ma7zoorat

museum ya zoser ? eh el fogr da ! museum 7eta wa7da ?showaya showaya te2olena nekhosh el seema

RedWiNe · Answer

Al salamu alaikum wa rahmatu allah wa barakatouh . 

Adam , Islam is much more easier than what u think . u r complicating things my brother .

Arent we sometimes helping with sin?

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