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Question about Yahoo TOS & Spaming.?
I have been sent the below comment from an un-named Yahoo list moderator.
* In a private email to another moderator you commented that you
* have the right to contact members off list. This is a contravention
* of Yahoo TOS. You can only contact other members off list if you
* have permission from them or if you already know them
* personally and have previous contact off list with them. If we
* receive complaints that you are contacting people off list without
* permission, you will be banned.
My concern is that in the past I have e-mailed her off list to continue a discussion that was getting was getting off topic & she's accepted this in the past. There has been several people recently banned because of the SPAM accusation & it seems that this definition has been mis-used to remove "undesirables" while insisting this is a fair & open process.
My Question is this... who defines if somethings a contravention of Yahoo TOS & who watches the watches/moderators?
This is a serious request. For the 24 hours after writing this I was repeatedly harassed off list - whit the most vile of language, threats and disgusting attack of my character
2 Antworten
- fooles.troupeLv 7vor 1 JahrzehntBeste Antwort
"who defines if something's a contravention of Yahoo TOS"
Like Humpty Dumpty, the uneducated ignorant always want words to mean just what they want them to mean at that time... so often too do those who need to play Powermonger games, attempt to redefine legal terms...
"who watches the watchers/moderators?"
Well, Yahoo is run by the Yanks, so the answer to that bit is probably "Mr Nobody, and/or his Lawyers"
"... has been mis-used to remove "undesirables" while insisting this is a fair & open process."
Powermongering Control Freaks will use/misuse anything they can get away with.
" If we receive complaints that you are contacting people off list without permission"
1) You can't get permission from someone on the list without contacting them to ask permission to contact them!!! Catch 22!!! Ha! Ha!
2) If the person on the list that you are contacting off list is already your friend and you knew each other before joining the list, then this statement merely confirms my suspicion that you are probably dealing with arrogant ignorant bullying Control Freaks. Run Away!!! Run Away!!! Run Away!!!
" In a private email to another moderator you commented that you have the right to contact members off list. This is a contravention of Yahoo TOS."
"You can only contact other members off list if you have permission from them or if you already know them"
Pity then that Yahoo, by its very interface, ENCOURAGES people on lists to contact each other, and invite each other to new lists, etc, then!
Since they haven't quoted chapter and verse (and don't seem to be able to, or they would already have done so in order to make such a controversial claim) of EXACTLY what part of the Yahoo TOS this (have the right to contact members off list) is supposed to contravene, and I have not been able to find any basis for this claim, and no clear precise answer has yet been forthcoming from Yahoo itself (and I also note that no one else before me has been able to provide any other answer for you!), I suspect (just in my personal opinion!) from personal past bitter experience that the sort of people making this claim should not be trusted to get behind you. Seems just like a bunch of potentially dangerous childish control freak Cyber Bullies. The problem is that Yahoo is trying to claim the status of a "Common Carrier", which it appears from the various opinions I have been able to gather, under Aussie Law that they may not have, and just pretends to act as if it does, so just ignores any approach from people who expose such problems.
If you complain to Yahoo, or indeed the ISP of anyone who acts in contravention of Australia Law to stalk you, bully you, defame you, or other wise behave in an unacceptable manner, and they refuse to act, under Aussie Law, an inaction IS an act, and they may be, in the various opinions I have obtained, deemed to be a co-conspirator in such actions in contravention of the Law against you. Such may also doubtless apply (taking into account the relevant provisions under 'vicarious responsibility') to any moderators of such Yahoo Groups, and even more so, to the Listowners, especially if they have been contacted for assistance, and have not assisted the complainant.
In my opinion, from my experience, you may be better off staying well away from such potentially unstable Groups of People. You are only likely to continue to be the target of their nastiness, as they will use you as a scapegoat for their own problems. From my personal experience, gatherings of people who behave in such ways, are eventually likely to self destruct, and you will be better off not being around, so you can't get blamed.
Quelle(n): The School Of Hard Knocks. - ErikaLv 4vor 4 Jahren
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